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Albert

Albert Report 11 Sep 2013 17:22

I have a death certificate for a lady who died in the County Mental Hospital Lancaster on 15/05/1946 aged 72. I have been unable to access any further information on her from the Lancashire Archives can anybody advise or help.
Albert

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Sep 2013 17:24

What information are you looking for please? Her death certificate will have given you the cause of death.

Do you mean that you are looking for access to her medical records?

Albert

Albert Report 11 Sep 2013 17:30

what i wish to know is can i connect this lady to my family
i dont think i will be able to access her medical records on line due to privacy laws

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Sep 2013 17:32

Hello, Albert -

If you like to give us some names, dates, places, we can have a look and see if we can find anything.
For a start, what is this lady's name?

Albert

Albert Report 11 Sep 2013 17:48

The ladies name is Louisa Knight aged 72 I believe she may be my G/M if she is her maiden name was Whitfield born Liverpool 1874 fathers name given as John Whitfield on mrg cert . Mrd Richard Knight 1897

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Sep 2013 17:53

Does the death certificate not say if she was single, married or widowed please?

I take it the informant wasn't a relative.



Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Sep 2013 17:58

Are you sure of the date ?
Only birth I can find....


Births Mar 1876
Whitfield Louisa - Liverpool 8b 48

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 11 Sep 2013 18:00


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Louisa Whitfield
Name: Louisa Whitfield
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1897
Registration District: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 611
Records on Page:
Name
Augustus Leo Durand
Richard Knight******************
Harriet Mustill
Louisa Whitfield**********************

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Sep 2013 18:01


that one appears to be the daughter of Samuel .


1891
[Louisa Whitfield]

Age:15
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1876
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:Samuel Whitefield
Mother's Name:Jane Whitefield
Where born:Liverpool, Lancashire, England


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Sep 2013 18:02

Births Mar 1874
WHITFIELD Louisa N. Forest 2b 647
WHITFIELD Louisa Bath 5c 637

Births Sep 1874
Whitfield Louisa Ripon 9a 77

Births Mar 1875
Whitfield Louisa Abergavenny 11a 62

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Sep 2013 18:07

There is this one living in L'pool area but born Ripon ??


Births Sep 1874
Whitfield Louisa - Ripon 9a 77


1891
:
Louisa Whitfield

Age:17
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1874
Relation:Lodger

Where born:Ripon, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish:St Clement
County/Island:Lancashire

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 11 Sep 2013 18:07

I can't see her on any census with a father called John. Only the one Roots put up with father Samuel.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 11 Sep 2013 18:11

What was the fathers occupation on the marriage cert please Albert? and how old was Richard?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Sep 2013 18:16

??


1901 England Census about Smisa Knight
Name: Smisa Knight
[Louisa Knight]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
[Abt 1875]
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Knight
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: West Derby
Sub-registration District: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 162
Piece: 3452
Folio: 78
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Knight 43
Smisa Knight 36
Sarah J Knight 14
Ada E Knight 11
Annie L Knight 9
Elizabeth E Knight 3
Martha A Knight 1

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Sep 2013 18:17

1901

Richard Knight 43
Smisa Knight 36 - LOUISA on original
Sarah J Knight 14
Ada E Knight 11
Annie L Knight 9
Elizabeth E Knight 3
Martha A Knight 1


Louisa missing in 1911 and Richard was evidently married before.

1911
Richard Knight 53 - married
Annie Louisa Knight 19 - daughter from previous marriage
Elizabeth Ellen Knight 13
Martha Ann Knight 11
William Henry Knight 8

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Sep 2013 18:17

She's not with the family in 1911. Maybe already in hospital?? Do any of the childrens' names mean anything to you, Albert? Is this the right family?:


1911 England Census about Richard Knight
Name: Richard Knight
Age in 1911: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 21 Lance Street Everton Liverpool
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cotton Porter
Registration District: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration District: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 22522
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Knight 53
Annie Louisa Knight 19
Elizabeth Ellen Knight 13
Martha Ann Knight 11
William Henry Knight 8

Albert

Albert Report 11 Sep 2013 18:19

The death cert I have just says widowed /husbands name Knight it was whispered in the family that my G/m died in a mental hospital in Lancaster hence the dth cert that i have from the gro. Mrg cert says age 23 farther John. Unable to connect birth with a John for that year. What I would like to know whether i can connect Louisa Knight with my Richard perhaps through hospital records/archives.

Albert

Albert Report 11 Sep 2013 18:22

The 1901 census is the only one that I can say is correct. Unable to trace her in any other

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Sep 2013 18:23

It's highly unlikely that the hospital would still have the medical records.

Anyway, it seems to have closed down years ago.
http://www.petercostellophotography.com/the-lancaster-county-lunatic-asylum

http://www.oblivionstate.com/forum/showthread.php/5110-The-Lancaster-County-Lunatic-Asylum-Permission-Visit-Apr-2013

Whether or not this Louisa is your relative, I'm sorry for her being in there, having read the above.

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Sep 2013 18:26

Looks like Ricihard with first wife.

1891

Richard Knight 33
Mary Ann Knight 33
John J Knight 13
Richard E Knight 10
Sarah J Knight 4
Elizabeth E Knight 3
Mary A Knight 58 - mother
Frederic J Knight 13 - brother