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Albert Smith b 27th July 1884

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Potty

Potty Report 3 Oct 2013 12:21

Albert's medal card just shows him getting the Victory and British Medals but I don't think these cards usually show other medals awarded.

Potty

Potty Report 3 Oct 2013 12:11

Actually, Dea, if you page backwards through the images, the next page shows an Albert Smith who was awarded the MM. The Regimental No is different (200770) but the date of enlistment is the same (4th Aug 1915). Paging back, there is one page with this No plus the 47 Priory Rd address.

Mary, have you actually seen this service record? From the info you have posted, it looks as if you have. On the page that mentions the MM, it also mentions the London Gazette

Dea

Dea Report 3 Oct 2013 11:13

I wonder if he is being confused with 'this' A. Smith who 'did' earn the Military Medal???

Taken from the 'National Roll of Honour of the Great War":

SMITH, A. (M>M>) Sergt., 2nd Manchester Regiment.
He was called up from the Reserve in August 1914, and quickly
drafted to the Western Front, where he played a distinguished
part in the fighting at Mons, Ypres and the Somme, and was
wounded in action in 1916. He was awarded the Military
Medal for conspicuous bravery and devotion to duty in the
Field. After recovering from his wound he returned to his
unit and was unfortunately killed in action at Vimy Ridge
on December 29th, 1917. He was entitled to the Mons Star,
and the General Service and Victory Medals.
"Great deeds cannot die:
They with the sun and moon renew their light for ever."
35 River Street, Hulme, Manchester. Z7415B


This would be him on CWGC site:

SMITH, A

Rank:
Serjeant
Service No:
1422
Date of Death:
28/12/1917
Regiment/Service:
Manchester Regiment

2nd Bn.
Awards:
M M
Grave Reference
II. H. 8.
Cemetery
ST. JULIEN DRESSING STATION CEMETERY


Unfortunately their is no further info on him e.g. family etc so it would need further recearch.

Will try to come back to it later but I cannot see that this could be the same one as 'yours'.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 3 Oct 2013 10:38

For reference re his regiment :


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Albert Smith
Name: Albert Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age at enlistment: 31
Residence: 48 Priory St, Preston
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 2074
Regiment Name: MMGS (HS)
Number of images: 3

There is very little in them and certainly nothing to suggest that he might have been awarded the MM.

I can't find him on the few listings I have found for these medals and there is nothing about him in the National Roll.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 3 Oct 2013 10:21

This is the family on 1911 for reference:

1911 census transcription details for: 22 Priory St Preston Lancashire
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN25312 RG78PN1448 RD476 SD4 ED9 SN253
Reg. District: Preston
Sub District: West Preston
Parish: Preston
Enum. District: 9
Address: 22 Priory St Preston Lancashire
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
SMITH, Albert Head Married M 26 1885 Power Weaver Overlooker Preston Lancs
SMITH, Annie Wife Married
2 years F 25 1886 Weaver Preston Lancs
SMITH, Elsie Daughter F 1 1910 Preston Lancs


Elsie's birth:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1910

SMITH Elsie West Preston Preston ARKINSTALL WP/11/54


His address and occupation may be useful in the search.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 3 Oct 2013 08:53

I think there may be a list on Ancestry but I can't weem to get on the site at the moment :-S

Is anyone else having problems with Ancestry this morning?

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 3 Oct 2013 08:51

Do you know which regiment he served in please?

Did he survive the war?

Do you know his home address during the war period?

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 3 Oct 2013 08:20

I think the names of Military Medal recipients were published in 'The Gazette'.

I am sure there is also a list somewhere - I will see if I can find it.

Dea x

Moira

Moira Report 3 Oct 2013 04:07

do you know the regiment he was in

Mary

Mary Report 2 Oct 2013 23:48

Albert Smith, b. 27th July 1884, Preston Lancashire married to Ann Arkinstall, 18th April 1908.
Enlisted at Coventry on 4 Aug 1915.21 .
Deployed to France on 28th August.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2013 23:31

Ancestry has Service & Pension Records and medal cards for WW1

But 70% were destroyed during WW2

With such a common name you are going to have to have more info such as where born or any middle names etc

Mary

Mary Report 2 Oct 2013 23:22

Albert was said to have won The Military Medal for action in WW1, can anyone verify this or tell me where is the best place to find out ?

Thank You.