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Hi rootgatherer,

Pretty sure this is him with his mother but no further on with him, too many marriages and deaths on Scotlandspeople for me search .
Just a pity he didn't use his middle name , that would have been helpful,

That looks good Jean. I have come across widows using their maiden surname on the 1841 census before.

Here's the Freecen version

Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Glasgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Georges field
Folio: 254 Page: 5

Address: 199 Murray Place, Campbells Land

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
OLIPHANT Ann F 45 Washer Lanarkshire
MITCHEL Robert M 14 Lanarkshire

Just going through all The Robert's with no surname and d.o.b.on Ancestry and found a Robert age 14 living with Ann Oliphant b 1796 , Address is 199, Campbells Land , Glasgow.

Oliphant is Ann's maiden name . It also shows her born in Lanarkshire c 1796, my Ann was born Dollar 1786

Surname shown as MITCHEL , don't know how I missed this , I have been searching for MITCHELL.

Just going back now to look for others.

Thank you mgnv ,

You are right , this is not my Robert married to Helen Cochrane Monteith .

This links my 1851 to Astra's 1871, so it looks like this is another Ann, my Ann's Robt can't be the Springer St Ann's Robt.

1861 Scotland Census Transcription
Street:GARSCUBE ROAD
County:Lanarkshire
Parish:ST GEORGE
Enumeration District:49
Registration District:MILTON
Country:SCOTLAND

ANN MITCHELL 1794 67 GLASGOW HEAD W GENERAL FURNISHER
GEORGE GALLOWAY 1836 25 CAMEREN PARISH SON-IN-LAW M Tailor
JANE GALLOWAY 1827 34 GLASGOW DAUGHTER U

mgnv,

Thanks for this information , I will go back to Scotlandspeople and have a look for that marriage.

The 1851 census is not mine as my Anne was living in Stirling street , Glasgow with her 2 grandaughters and stepgrandchildren , and still in Stirling street in 1861 , but thank you .

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
shows all the Scottish collections online at FS - the useful ones are:
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910
International Genealogical Index (IGI)
The IGI is now divided into submitted and ranscribed/extracted records
(Their census records just give the individual, not the household, so are pretty useless.)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTB5-T2H
[I would definitely think an 1855 m.cert worth getting. It also gives the couples children by former marrs, their relationship to eachother (if any), and the date & place of birth, in addition to the usual stuff]

Mary Mcluckie https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQWC-4QY
William https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ5B-2TL
Anne Harvey https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQQ3-KVR
Jane https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQQS-KGZ
Ellen https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQWC-17N
Robert Monteith https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQNN-9X7

1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 12
Civil Parish: St George's Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St George's
Folio: 0 Page: 6 Schedule: 17
Address: 27 Garscube Road
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MITCHELL Ann Head W F 56 Generaler Furnesher Lanarkshire - Glasgow
MITCHELL Jane Dau U F 26 House Keeper Lanarkshire - Glasgow
MITCHELL Robert Son U M 23 Draper Salesman Lanarkshire - Glasgow

That's the one Rootgatherer .
I don't think you looked for the burial .

I am on my way out too, so thanks to everyone who has helped ,

regards
jean

So this is Ann in 1861

Name: Ann Mitchell
Age: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Dollar, Perth
Registration number: 644/7
Registration District: Milton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 4 Stirling St
ED: 2
Household Schedule Number: 77
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1861_106
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Mitchell 75
Ann Stewart 20
Margaret Stewart 18
Henry Moore 1


(I remembered about Henry Moore)


Did I look at the Cemetery records for a burial of Ann before? I can't remember but I do remember looking at the Poor Relief.

I have got to out shortly and may not be able to add any more until tomorrow. The joys of retirement, busier than ever!! Reading these boards help we to unwind from my rather hectic lifestyle lol.

I just thought that if the births were on familysearch there might be a way of finding other information as well, or is that not the case ?

Snap.

Yes I am well Thank you, hope you are too.

Still looking for various family members, still addicted !!!!!

Anne or sometimes known as Margaret was John's widow , can't find his death either . She died in Stirling Street, Glasgow, her daughter Agnes signed the death cert.

You went to the Mitchell for me Rootgatherer and found Poor relief records for just before she died but the page was blank .

Unfortunately I don't live in Scotland otherwise i think I would be a the Mitchell on a regular basis.

Oh, gosh Jean that was a while ago - before i retired anyway. I do hope you are keeping well and glad you are still working on the family.

In that case I know you are not local to the Mitchell. I think that we already got the Poor Relief for Ann if I remember correctly.

Thats the one Rootgathrer,

You helped me ages ago with Agnes who married Duncan McGregor , believe it or not I am still looking for Alexander Moore .

regards
jean

Was Anne "married to" or "widow of" John please?

Do you have the address where she died?
The address could lead to a possible burial place. As you have an exact date of death for her, you could (if you live locally) look for her burial in the records held in The Mitchell Library. It is then possible to find who else is in the lair.

The Mitchell also have the Poor Relief Records for Glasgow indexed. These could be useful if she was widowed and claimed poor relief as they often give details of surviving family members.



EDIT

What age was Ann when she died please?

Detective,

Thanks for replying,

You are right of course perhaps he didn't die in Scotland but i thought I would look there first,

Cheers

Anne Cardiff,

Thanks I will give it a go .

Can't really tell if the Robert's you found are mine, but i will keep them in mind, thanks for your help

Ah! got it now. Parents John Mitchell and Ann Oliphant

Robert Wark Mitchell
birth: 1 February 1827
death:
christening: 18 March 1827
Barony,Lanark,Scotland
batch number: 8318030
IGI batch type code: 2
IGI sheet number: 13
IGI serial number: 00040

I have just started looking for Agnes's siblings , thought I would start with Robert as he had a middle name and it might be easier .

I have found Agnes died in 1874 and her mother Anne in 1861.