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Cherilyn
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27 Oct 2013 04:25 |
Sorry Beverley, I have only just seen your reply.
Here is the link: http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/family+history+certificates/
Please do come back and share any new clues to be found on the certificate! :-)
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13 Oct 2013 11:35 |
Cherilyn
Again, many thanks. On PROVIC I saw a naturalization for Charles Christen Christensen which seems to fit. He was not a policeman but a carter in McMahons Point, Sydney. I have info for the children and you are correct in their names. Would you send me the link to download an uncertified image for Alice and Charles' marriage in 1905, Victoria please. There are many questions. I assume Charles landed in Melbourne, Alice born I believe in Kogarah, Sydney. Why does she get married in Fitzroy, Melbourne? They were both around 40 or more when they had their first child in 1906. Very late in life for those times, which makes me wonder if Alice was married before? Questions, questions Many thanks again and I welcome any more info you may stumble across! Cheers Beverley :-)
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Cherilyn
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13 Oct 2013 10:56 |
My pleasure :-) it would be worth checking out the death notices at Ryerson to get children's names, if you don't have them:
CHRISTENSEN Harold Death notice 17JUN1965 Death at McMahon's Point Sydney Morning Herald 19JUN1965
CHRISTENSEN Charles Alan Death notice 29NOV1984 Death [aged] 76 late of Point Clare, formerly of Griffith Sydney Morning Herald 01DEC1984
CHRISTENSEN Alice Marie Death notice 27FEB1971 Death late of North Sydney Sydney Morning Herald 04MAR1971
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13 Oct 2013 10:53 |
Cherilyn, you are brilliant! I do have some of this, but other dates and marriages I don't have. MANY thanks! The brick wall is starting to chip away! :-) :-)
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13 Oct 2013 10:42 |
Possible birth as DUFF?
1763/1869 DUFF ALICE / / CATHERINE / SYDNEY
Perhaps she was adopted by Alice WARRINGTON?
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13 Oct 2013 10:39 |
FYI from Digger
Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913
Surname: CHRISTENSEN Given Names: Chas Christen Event: M Spouse Surname: WARRINGTON Spouse Gvn Names: Alice Duff [b. Sydney] Birth Place: DENMARK Year: 1905 Reg. Number: 3961
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Cherilyn
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13 Oct 2013 10:24 |
Arriving from Liverpool via Hobart Town, same day, having sailed from the former place on the 21st of September, and the latter on the 28th of April, the barque Adventurer...passengers from England: ...John Warrington, brickmaker, Margaret Warrington, and Alice Warrington...
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Cherilyn
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13 Oct 2013 10:18 |
The NSW online records have naturalisations for 2 Christen CHRISTENSENs of Denmark. One in 1895 (says see also Charles) and one in 1899. You can order a copy, may give further details.
Was he a policeman?
Register of Police: [service number] 8829 CHRISTENSEN Christen [born] 1883 New South Wales [appointed] 28 Apr 1908 3043 [8/3253]
Alice WARRINGTON's deceased estate record is also there.
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-online
Their 1905 marriage cert should provide full details of parents, birthplace etc. You can download an uncertified image for A$20. Let me know if you need the link.
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13 Oct 2013 09:55 |
Children's marriages (you may have this)
6270/1932 CHRISTENSEN CHARLES A / ANDERSON SYLVIA M / NORTH SYDNEY
10643/1945 CHRISTENSEN HAROLD / SCRAGG HELEN MAY / NORTH SYDNEY
24024/1942 CHRISTENSEN NORMAN / MCALLISTER ALMA / NORTH SYDNEY
?? 22356/1950 CHRISTENSEN NORMAN / KENDON DOROTHY ALICE / SYDNEY
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Cherilyn
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13 Oct 2013 09:39 |
Eldest daughter Alice did not marry...her death:
41081/1971 CHRISTENSEN ALICE MARIE / CHARLES / ALICE / ST LEONARDS
17656/1965 CHRISTENSEN HAROLD / CHRISTEN (CHARLES) / ALICE DUFF / ST LEONARDS
? 48594/1974 CHRISTENSEN NORMAN / DIED KURNELL / UNKNOWN
WWII service at NAA Recordsearch: CHRISTENSEN HAROLD : Service Number - N319565 : Date of birth - 11 Sep 1911 : Place of birth - SYDNEY NSW : Place of enlistment - SYDNEY NSW : Next of Kin - CHRISTENSEN CHARLES
CHRISTENSEN NORMAN : Service Number - NX55289 : Date of birth - 25 Sep 1909 : Place of birth - SYDNEY NSW : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - CHRISTENSEN ALICE* *this one has been digitised
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13 Oct 2013 09:38 |
Fits with these chn's births in NSW, assuming Alice Marie and Charles Allen were known by 2nd given names - shows father was known as Charles:
31388/1906 CHRISTENSEN ALICE M / CHARLES C / ALICE / SYDNEY 682/1908 CHRISTENSEN CHARLES A / CHARLES C / ALICE/ SYDNEY 21819/1909 CHRISTENSEN NORMAN / CHARLES C / ALICE SYDNEY 24172/1911 CHRISTENSEN HAROLD / CHARLES C / ALICE SYDNEY
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13 Oct 2013 09:35 |
Here's the death notices from NLA Trove:
The Sydney Morning Herald, Monday 20 July 1953 CHRISTENSEN, Alice.—July 18, 1953, at a private hospital, Mosman, late of McMahon's Point, loved mother of Marie, Allen, Norman, and Harold, aged 84 years.
The Sydney Morning Herald, Saturday 20 February 1943 CHRISTENSEN. February 13, 1943, at a private hospital, Mosman, Charles Christen, beloved husbend of Alice Christensen of McMahon's Print and father of Marie, Alan, Norman and Harold. Privately cremated.
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13 Oct 2013 09:34 |
Possible NSW death of Alice? 19829/1953 CHRISTENSEN ALICE / WILLIAM / ALICE / CHATSWOOD
Christen's death reg, based on Ryserson info found: 3887/1943 CHRISTENSEN CHRISTEN / CHRISTEN / NETA MARIE / MOSMAN
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alviegal
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12 Oct 2013 22:18 |
Sorry must go now. Early start in the morning. Will check in tomorrow.
Liz
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12 Oct 2013 22:08 |
Alviegal, THANK YOU! No age but some concrete info. Yes it is him as I know he lived in McMahon's Point. Well done Sending big hug!
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12 Oct 2013 21:47 |
His death? No age though.
CHRISTENSEN Charles Christen Death notice 13FEB1943 Death at Mosman, late of McMahon's Point Sydney Morning Herald 20FEB1943
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12 Oct 2013 21:40 |
Hi Alviegal
Many thanks for that census info. That is the one! :-)
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12 Oct 2013 21:37 |
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Charles Christie Christensen Name: Charles Christie Christensen Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1930 State: New South Wales District: North Sydney Subdistrict: Milson's Point
With Alice at 5 George Street. He is a carter.
There is a Charles Allen, carpenter and Alice Marie. clerk living at 5 King Street
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Charles Christie Christensen Name: Charles Christie Christensen Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1933 State: New South Wales District: North Sydney Subdistrict: Milson's Point
Living with Alice and Norman, traveller at same address.
Charles A and Alice M still at same address.
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12 Oct 2013 21:32 |
hi Gins
Their children were Alice Marie, Charles Alan, Norman and Harold who wrote all born in Sydney. I believe Alice was born in Kogarah and from a funeral notice I found she was 84 when she died putting her birth year at 1869. I believe Alice Marie was born in 1908 which would have made Alice 39 .... A dangerous age in those times for first child?
I am unable to find ANY info about her parents at all in Trove, NSW BDM etc and hoped any super sleuths could find another avenue.
Hi Alemap I found the trove ref about wedding, thank you. I wonder why they married in Melbourne? The immigration may be Charles although any info I have never has him as a Jensen or Christian, always christen! but that could be a transcribers error..
Hi Alviegal
Thank you for that piece if information. Obviously not Alice Duff Warrington, but could as you say, be her mother.
I appreciate every post from anyone. Many thanks. I am at a particularly graffiti- less brick wall! :-) FFriends
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12 Oct 2013 21:30 |
Children for the couple.
31388/1906 CHRISTENSEN ALICE M CHARLES C ALICE SYDNEY 682/1908 CHRISTENSEN CHARLES A CHARLES C ALICE SYDNEY 21819/1909 CHRISTENSEN NORMAN CHARLES C ALICE SYDNEY 24172/1911 CHRISTENSEN HAROLD CHARLES C ALICE SYDNEY
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