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I have just seen a posting regarding Crew Lists and I was wondering if someone would be able to help me please.

On my gg grandmother's Death Cert (Sept 1890) it says her husband WCS is a Steward on a Royal Mail Steamship. The death was reported by their son, so William must have been at sea when she died. They were living in Woolwich at the time.

I did a double take when I got the certificate as WCS was in the army in India for many years!


Thanks

Hi Christine.

What is it you are asking for please? (probably me being a bit dim!).

Jan

Hi Jan

Sorry (thought you were a mind-reader!)

I was trying to find out what ship he was on if possible.

Ta

just for reference

Name: William Champion Smeed
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Jun 1844
Christening Place: St. Mary, Dover, Kent, England
Father's Name: Edward Smeed
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Smeed
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03054-0
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1836143
Reference ID: item 2 p 1325

On the post that Gins replied to she said there were Crew Lists on Ancestry. I have no idea if you have to search on the name of the ship or the name of the crew member. Knowing my luck it will be the former!

Wonder how he is described on his death cert

Name: William Champion Smeed
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1900
Age at Death: 55
Registration District: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 195

From memory he was a Docks Labourer before he died.

Nothing on FMP This one born 1817
Smeed WILLIAM 1817 — 1845 Merchant navy & maritime Great Britain
Nothing on Ancestry.

Ok. Many thanks for looking!

Kind Regards
Chris

Hello Chris, I see from his army records that he was also known as William Dady. Do you know when he was using his various names?

He died in 1900 ,maybe the army record is his son William

Shirley, no - the army record is most definitely his because his son wasn't born in 1844! I wouldn't have been looking at e.g. WW1 records for someone who would have been around 70 at that time.

It looks as though he enlisted in one regiment in 1859 as William Dady and then another in 1863 as William Champion Smeed. The records on FindMyPast include both attestation papers and comments written on them by the regiment.

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Crew Lists 1861-1913 -

First name(s): W

Last name: SMEED

Made mark: Capacity: Assist Cook

Year of birth: 1848 (calculated) Indenture date:

Age: 42 Indenture port:

Place of birth (transcribed): Kent RNVR number:

Place of birth: (standardised) Kent, Kent Ticket number:

Previous ship: Shore Service

Previous ship port:

Previous ship year:


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Vessel name: Port Denison Vessel official number: 94316

Period for crew list: 11 Dec 1890 - 16 Apr 1891 Port: London

Master: S MON Port registry number: 97

Master's address: Port registry year: 1887

Master's town (transcribed): Gross tonnage: 3505

Master's town (standardised): Net tonnage: 2289

Master's ticket number: Horse power:

Owner: William MILBURN Number of seamen:

Owner's address: 1, 2, 3 & 4 Bilbter Avenue Repository's reference: BT99/1714

Owner's town (transcribed): London EC Log book available?: No

Owner's town (standardised): London, London Record source: The National Archives

Whoops I forgot his birth year. :-D

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=330278.0

(above, a query if any use with anything)


Description:Name Smeed, William Dady
Official Number: 161043
Place of Birth: Bombay, India
Date of Birth: 12 December 1870

(above Navy Record from below, if he fits in family anywhere)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/royal-naval-seamen.htm

Chris :)

Five trees on Mundia.com

Brereton-Heard tree
Public Member Tree
Unsourced William Champion Smeed
Birth: 1844 - Kent
Death: 17 Feb 1900 - Essex
Marriage: 1870 - Bengal (West Bengal), India
Spouse: Mary Ann William
F: (Name Unknown)

M: (Name Unknown)
Coggins Family Tree
Public Member Tree
1 attached record, 1 source William Champion Smeed
Birth: Abt 1844 - Kent, England

F: Edward Smeed

M: Elizabeth H Oakes
Hills/Davis/Dady Family Tree
Public Member Tree
Unsourced William Champion AKA "DAady" William Smeed
Birth: 15/04/1844 (15 Apr 1844) - Kent
Death: March 1900 (Mar 1900) - Dover, Kent

F: Edward Smeed

M: Elizabeth Hannah Oates
Val Potts Family Tree
Public Member Tree
1 source William Champion Smeed
Birth: 1844 - Kent
Death: 17 Feb 1900 - Essex
Spouse: Mary Ann William
F: (Name Unknown)

M: (Name Unknown)
Hodge
Public Member Tree
Unsourced William Champion Smeed
Birth: Bef 30 Jun 1844 (30 Jun 1844) - Kent

F: Edward Smeed

M: Elizabeth Anna Oates

Had a busy weekend and have come back to see all this!

I do have a lot of info on WCS and he was quite a colourful character! He deserted from his first regiment which he joined at 15yrs as a Boy Trumpeter. He then re-enlisted into another regiment using his brother-in-laws surname of Dady. Off he went to India where he married and had to call his first son Dady for obvious reasons. He was eventually found out and sent back to England to be dealt with. They stopped his pension for the time he was AWOL from his first regiment. He was 'busted' several times for being drunk & disorderly and getting into fights, but he finally retired from the army as a Drum Sgt Major. The son you mentioned above (William Dady Smeed) was a Stoker with the Royal Navy. Sadly he was asphixiated when some idiot took a stove into the double hull of the ship where he was painting.

Thanks for your continued interest.

New request please!

Would someone be able to carry out an address check in the 1901 Census please?

The address is 24 Adamson Road Custom House

(Which is part of West Ham).

I am looking for an M. A. Smeed (age unknown).
Female/Widow.


Many Thanks

Hi Christine, not seeing either a no 24 or a Custom House on Adamson Road in 1901.

If you could let us know where these details came from can try other ways of finding. Are you trying to establish who M A Smeed was?

There's this one:

SMEED, Mary A Head Widow F 46 1855 Shirt Machinist Battersea, London

Piece: 353 Folio: 169 Page: 18
Registration District: Poplar
Civil Parish: Poplar

Address: 14, Latham Street, Poplar County: London
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ADDED: or

MARTIN, Luther Head Married M 51 1850 Dairyman Sussex
MARTIN, Julia Wife Married F 50 1851 Dressmaker Hereford
TAYLOR, James Step Son Single M 25 1876 Clerk Commercial Kent
SMEED, Mary Ann Mother Widow F 72 1829 Dalston
JOSCELYNE, Gertrude Niece Single F 19 1882 Visitor Dalston

Piece: 559 Folio: 86 Page: 3
Registration District: Lewisham
Civil Parish: Lewisham M

Address: 99, Ewart Road, Lewisham County: London