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Oh thanks all, this really does look likely. And that looks very likely for Ellen, in the same area as Sarah and Mary F. It's small village communities rather rural, so not many residents born in USA!

Think you've cracked it guys, many thanks!!!

Don't suppose you can find a marriage for Richard/Sarah can you - so I can look at her history in Cumberland?

This looks like the other daughter, Ellen who is on the 1880 USA.

1891

John Foster 39 Farmer
Elizabeth Foster 39
Richard Tell Foster 17
John Foster 16
Margaret Foster 11
William Foster 10
George Foster 8
Edward Foster 6
Elizabeth Foster 4
Isabell Foster 2
Ellen C Ragland 15 Servant born Brooklyn.



Civil Parish:Upper Holker
Ecclesiastical parish:Cartmel St Mary
Town:Cartmel


Marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Fell John Hall Ulverston 8e 1281
RAGLAND Ellen Christina Ulverston 8e 1281

1901

John Hall Fell 41
Ellen Fell 25 Born New Jersey
Gordon W R Fell 4
Sarah J Fell 1



Andy

If this is the same person, she's listed as widow of Richard in 1884....

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 about Richard W Raglan
Name: Richard W Raglan
Gender: Male
Spouse: Sarah Raglan
Publication Title: Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1884

Yes, I agree. So don't think I'll find a marriage for mother Sarah in UK, as he was born Virginia most likely that's why I haven't found a marriage for her here.

Mike's find looks spot on - nice one!
Jan

OOH that does look promising, on one of the census she stated she was born Brooklyn!!

Sorry Brummiejan, don't have the marriage cert.

Although that looks promision Andy, Sarah is rather a lot too old she was only 41 on the 1891 census but, then again 45 is rather old for a child, is there an image with more details please?

1880 USA census. Name could be Raglan

Rich'd Ragler 46 Born Virginina
Sarah Ragler 46 Born England (Age is 31 on image)
Ellen Ragler 5
Mary Francis Ragler 1


Home in 1880:
Brooklyn, Kings, New York


Andy

Does the marriage cert give Sarah's maiden name?
Jan

Hi All,

Just trying to tie up some loose ends in my tree, but I'm stuck with Mary Frances Raglan, or Ragland, (known as May). Can't find her birth or her mother's name/marriage.

On the 1901/1911 census she was with her husband James Henderson in Lindale, Lancashire - according to the census born New York, they married in Lancaster in 1888 she was named Raglan.

This is her in 1891, with her mother who married in 1888 to John Middleton under the name Ragland:

Mary F Ragland
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Middleton
Mother's Name: Sarah Middleton
Gender: Female
Where born: New York, United States

Civil Parish: Upper Allithwaite
Ecclesiastical parish: Lindale St Paul
Town: Lindale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Ulverston
Sub-registration District: Cartmel
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3474
Folio: 116
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
John Middleton 43
Sarah Middleton 41
William Middleton 13
Mary F Ragland 11
Mary A Middleton 8
Sarah J Middleton 8
Joseph K Middleton 6/12

So, I've been trying to find her birth, or her mother's first marriage (if there was one), but there is no sign of a Sarah marrying a Raglan(d) on freebmd and I'm not finding anything for Mary on immigration lists so far.

Any help greatfully appreciated!