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Alana
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6 Nov 2013 15:36 |
I am trying to obtain any information on a Thomas William Richard Purcell and any of his family members I know that he was born in 1910 and had a twin brother George and an elder sister Stella He was posted to the Isle of Wight during WW11 and married an Edith Chambers Thank you for taking the time to read this if you have any info await your reply
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Maddie
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6 Nov 2013 15:39 |
is this a possibilty
Death record transcript
Name: PURCELL, Thomas W R
Registration district: [?] Hull
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1962
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death:51
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 126
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Maddie
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6 Nov 2013 15:43 |
is this the family in 1911 Name Relation Condition / Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image PURCELL, Annie Head Married5 years F 30 1881 Hull Yorks VIEW PURCELL, Stella Daughter F 4 1907 Hull Yorks VIEW PURCELL, George Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Hull Yorks VIEW PURCELL, Dick Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Hull Yorks VIEW MCCONNELL, Violet Servant F 14 1897 Domestic Servant Gilberdyke Yorks VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 28641
Reference: RG14PN28641 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED31 SN221
Registration District: Sculcoates
Sub District: Hessle
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Sculcoates
Address: 1 Manchester St Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)
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ErikaH
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6 Nov 2013 15:49 |
It's easier to help if you say what you wish to know.
We don't then use time looking for that which you don't need.....or already know
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Mike *
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6 Nov 2013 15:55 |
Births Sep Qtr 1910 PURCELL George F A - Sculcoates 9d 199
Death George Frederick A Purcell Birth Date:24 Jul 1910 Date of Registration:Mar 1971 Age at Death:60 Registration District:Hull Inferred County:Yorkshire East Riding
Volume:2a Page:480
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6 Nov 2013 15:58 |
Birth Stella Dorothea Purcell Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1907 Registration District:Sculcoates Inferred County:Yorkshire East Riding
Volume:9d Page:168 ----------------------------------
Marriages Dec 1940 Brown Cyril A - Purcell - Hull 9d 440 Purcell Stella D - Brown - Hull 9d 440
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MarieCeleste
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6 Nov 2013 18:04 |
On the 1911 return Anne has signed herself Anna Dora Purcell so this is most likely her marriage:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1905 NIEMANN Anna Dora Hull 9d 454 PURCELL Henry Vincent Hull 9d 454
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MarieCeleste
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6 Nov 2013 18:12 |
Just a hunch but wonder if this is the death of his father? From Maritime BMD
Registration event: death
Name: PURCELL, H V Date of death: 2 February 1924 Age: 43 Place of death: Thorohavn Place of birth: Beverley Belonging to service: Ship's name: Montans Series: BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea Box: 0084 Page: 111
He was ship master, died of sickness, left ship for hospital 2 Feb.
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Overseas registration event: Death
Name: PURCELL, H V Consulate: Thonshavn Country: Norway Year: 1921-1925 Volume: 18 Page: 84 Age at death: 43 Record source: GRO Consular Death Indices (1849 to 1965)
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MarieCeleste
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6 Nov 2013 18:16 |
Looking possible:
Royal Navy Officers Medal Roll 1914-1920
First Name(s):Henry V. Last Name:Purcell Rank:Skipper Service:Royal Naval Reserve Official number or name of ship:1936 S.A. Medals and clasps earned:1914-15 Star, Victory & British War Medals How issued or disposed of:No entry.
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MarieCeleste
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6 Nov 2013 18:22 |
From the newspaper archives:
Headline: DIED AT SEA. Publication:Hull Daily Mail Publication date:Friday 08 February 1924
HULL TRAWLER BRINGS HOME THE SKIPPERS BODY A well-known Hull skipper, Henry Vincent Purcell, has died suddenly at sea, and his vessel, the Montano, owned by the Hull Northern Steam Fishing Company, has returned to Hull with the body on board.
Skipper Purcell, who was 44 years of age, lived at 3, Canopia Avenue, Hessleroad.
He was taken ill when the Monatano was fishing off the Faroe Islands. The vessel was taken into Thorsaven, with a view to obtaining medical aid, but it was too late to save the skippers life.
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MarieCeleste
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6 Nov 2013 18:28 |
There are numerous trees on Ancestry that have attributed this death to Henry Vincent Purcell:
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Henry V Purcell Birth Date: abt 1880 Date of Registration: Jun 1964 Age at Death: 84 Registration District: Kettering Inferred County: Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 485
I'm pretty sure that they are all wrong and have just picked the nearest birth that fits and then all copied the wrong info off each other.
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MarieCeleste
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6 Nov 2013 18:32 |
Possibly his family in 1881:
PURCELL, William Head Married M 33 1848 Sergt East York Militia Corfu Island, Ionian Islands, Greece PURCELL, Catherine Wife Married F 32 1849 Jersey, Channel Islands PURCELL, Catherine L Daughter Single F 7 1874 Gosport, Hampshire PURCELL, Cecilia M Daughter Single F 6 1875 Gosport, Yorkshire PURCELL, Thomas M Son Single M 2 1879 Beverley St Johns, Yorkshire PURCELL, Henry V Son Single M 1 1880 Beverley St Johns, Yorkshire
Piece: 4743 Folio: 108 Page: 5 Registration District: Beverley Civil Parish: Beverley St John Woodmansey cum Beverely Parks
Address: Victoria Barracks 5th Brigade Depot Beverley, Beverley St John Woodmansey Cum Beverely Parks County: Yorkshire (East riding)
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MarieCeleste
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6 Nov 2013 18:38 |
Anna's family 1881:
NIEMANN, John Head Married M 35 1846 Master Tailor (Employing 1 Boy) Germany NIEMANN, Christine Wife Married F 37 1844 Master Tailors Wife Germany NIEMANN, John Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire NIEMANN, Theodor Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar Hull, Yorkshire NIEMANN, Earnest Son Single M 2 1879 Hull, Yorkshire NIEMANN, Anna Daughter Single F 0 1881 Hull, Yorkshire JOST, Wilm Apprentice Single M 14 1867 Apprentice To Tailor Hull, Yorkshire
Piece: 4774 Folio: 90 Page: 33 Registration District: Hull Civil Parish: Kingston upon Hull Holy Trinity and St Mary
Address: 131, Porter Street, Kingston Upon Hull Holy Trinity And St Mary County: Yorkshire (East riding)
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MarieCeleste
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6 Nov 2013 18:43 |
Anna Dora's probate:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Anna Dora Purcell Probate Date: 2 Jun 1944 Death Date: 23 Apr 1944 Death Place: Kingston Upon Hull Registry: Llandudno
Lived 7 Whitby Grove Wheeler Street, Kingston upon Hull. Died the Naval Hospital, 188 Anlaby Road Kingston upon Hull. Admin to Stella Dorothea Brown (wife of Cyril Ashby Brown). Effects £819 4s 7d
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Cynthia
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7 Nov 2013 13:03 |
Hello Alana and welcome to the Community Boards. :-)
(I will let Alana know that she has replies to her query) :-)
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Alana
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11 Nov 2013 17:16 |
thank you all for the information you have discovered. This has given a lot of discussion with family over the past weekend. If anyone can help with any more information we will be very happy
We cant thank you all enough Happy hunting now the darker days are here I hope to do more hunting myself
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MarieCeleste
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11 Nov 2013 22:09 |
Hello Alana, don't mind looking for more info if you could be more specific about what you're trying to find out and what background info you already have.
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MarieCeleste
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12 Nov 2013 19:54 |
pm from Alana, she's wanting to research his siblings and the name Brown is difficult to research.
It looks like Stella stayed around the Yorkshire area:
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Stella Dorothea Brown Birth Date: 15 Apr 1907 Date of Registration: Mar 1994 Age at Death: 86 Registration District: Goole Inferred County: Lincolnshire, Yorkshire Register Number: 30D District and Subdistrict: 5471 Entry number: 98
They married 1940
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Stella D Purcell Spouse : Cyril A Brown Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1940 Registration District: Hull Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume Number: 9d Page Number: 440
EDIT: I see Mike had posted this above.
I'm not seeing any births in the Yorkshire area for the surname combinations although there are numerous births outside the area.
You could always buy her death certificate to see who the informant was.
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MarieCeleste
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12 Nov 2013 20:10 |
I'm not sure if this is the death of Stella's husband:
Registration event: Death
Name: BROWN, Cyril Ashby Date of death: 4 October 1952 Age: 44 Place of death: At Sea Place of birth: Hull Belonging to service: Ship's name: Norman Series: BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea Box: 0110 Page: 2
The image states he lived 8 Holborn Street, Witham, Hull. He was a cook. He was drowned, body recovered.
This link gives info about the wrecking of the Norman 19 men died. http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?167007
The thing that gives me doubts is this probate:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name: Cyril Ashby Brown Probate Date: 28 Apr 1958 Death Date: 4 Oct 1952 Death Place: Kingston Upon Hull Registry: Yorkshire, England
The address is the same as on the death record and states he died at sea but the widow is Sarah .......
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