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Although it states ....Father John "James" Rensch on John Frederick's marriage record, i think this is his marriage record...


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Frederick Rensch (Bachelor) Watchmaker....12 Sidney Grove
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Copley
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Jan 1855
Parish: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Father Name: John Frederick Rensch (Porter)
Spouse Father Name: John Copley (Carpenter)
Register Type: Parish Register

Wonder what sort of painter? Artist or Decorator?? Maybe I have a famous Artist in the family, though not passed to me, can't even draw a straight line!

1891 England Census
about John Rensch Name: John Rensch
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Rensch
Gender: Male
Where born: Clerkenwell, London, England

Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
Town: South Hackney Ward
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Hackney
Sub-registration District: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 204
Folio: 144
Page Number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
John Rensch 61 (Painter)
Mary A Rensch 61
Boarders....
Joseph Cade 25
Arthur Aldridge 28
William Ward 27
Arthur Pope 18
Fred R Cooper 12
Eliza Thurgood 21 (Visitor)
Alfred Reusch 4 (Grandaughter)

Just thought maybe the Reusch was the N miss read.
Any one found John James and Mary Ann marriage? Still need to find when the spelling changed on the name. Where would be the best place to check, and did it have to be formal, or just by usage>>

I double checked all 3 images of the marriage records and John's occupation does read......Painter and not Printer.

..London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about George Dannell Rensch Name: George Dannell Rensch
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Alice Blackford
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Oct 1880
Parish: Bethnal Green St Thomas
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Rensch (Painter)
Spouse Father Name: Alfred Blackford
Register Type: Parish Register

Holly
Thanks for that so now Rensch, and farther has changed his profesion?? from watch maker to painter? could be printer? as the family did all go into the newspaper printing buisness.

Dea
that looks like them. Can you get 1851 census please?. Strange about the spelling, as I believe originally they where called Wren(s)ch That name does not look very english does it

A Sister........

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Elizabeth Rensch >>>> 17 Felix Street
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Age: 21
Spouse Name: John Ewer (Type Founder)
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 May 1880
Parish: Bethnal Green St Jude
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Rensch (Painter)
Spouse Father Name: John Ewer (Type Founder) Bachelor
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: John Ewer and Elizabeth Sanders

Thank you all for info, I do have most of that, would like to find more about the father /mother John James/and mother?? can't find on 1861 census, as I thought that would help me more

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1861 census transcription details for: 29, St Mary Road Lucan Place, St Leonard Shoreditch
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 243
Folio: 74
Page: 15
Reg. District: Shoreditch
Sub District: 4 Hoxton Old Town
Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Enum. District: 21
Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 29, St Mary Road Lucan Place, St Leonard Shoreditch
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
REUSCH, John Head Married M 31 1830 Watch Maker
Westminster, Middlesex
REUSCH, Mary Ann Wife Married F 31 1830
Dartford, Kent
REUSCH, John Son M 5 1856
Islington, Middlesex
REUSCH, George Son M 4 1857
Westminster, Middlesex
REUSCH, Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1859
Westminster, Middlesex
REUSCH, Arthur Son M 0 (3M) 1861
Hayton, Middlesex

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..London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Frederick Rensch (Bachelor) Type Founder
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Ellen Hanrahan
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Dec 1877
Parish: Bethnal Green St Thomas
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John James Rensch (Painter)
Spouse Father Name: James Lawson Hanrahan (Chair Maker)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: William...???? and Susannah Barr
(William's signature is on another record on the same page so he was possibly a proffesional witness.)

Marriage on FreeBMD has this spelling:

Marriages Dec 1877
Hanrahan Ellen Bethnal Green 1c 765
REUSCH John Frederick Bethnal Green 1c 765

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Name: Ellen Hanrahan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Age: 20
Spouse Name: John Frederick Rensch
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Dec 1877
Parish: Bethnal Green St Thomas
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Lawson Hanrahan
Spouse Father Name: John James Rensch
Register Type: Parish Register

His fathers name should be on the marriage cert,if known

Hi looking to update my tree, Trying to establish father of the above b 1855 London (poss Islington) Married Ellen Hanrahan b1857, married 16/12/1877. can not find John in 1861 census, to establish father /mother name At some time around 1850's appear to have changed spelling from Wrench and anglasised it My records are quiet old now, and am unable to confirm some of the details I think his father was John JamesHave tried Gr and FMP, any other idears welcome, from the knowledgeable ones on here.