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I think this could be the brothers in 1891 in Canada. He's with John Jaent aged 36 also born England.
1891 Census of Canada
about Richard Jaent Name: Richard Jaent
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1868
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Religion: Church of England
French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Province: Manitoba
District Number: 7
District: Marquette
Subdistrict: Riding Mountain
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Jaent 23
I'm presuming the enumerator was French speaking hence the mis-spelling of the name.
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We need feedback ............stuck without it
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I'll let the poster know about the replies to his query. :-)
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Thanks, Cynthia, what would we do without you?
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Margee - the 1891 enumerator was Mr Morrison, which doesn't sound particularly French to me. It also doesn't sound particularly like a Co Durham name either, so no doubt he did feel the need for a translator.
On a related note, I was browsing a mid 19th-cent census of a Durham mining village when I stumbled across a family - their place of birth (Lancashire) was listed in the disability col for the family.
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I still think that the 91 census that I posted is the right one. The coincidence of 2 brothers with the correct first names, correct dates of birth, born England and living in Mantoba has to be them despite the mis-spelling of the surname.
As for Mr. Morrison not sounding French, I remember a high school teacher by the name of Angus MacKenzie, a French Canadian whose English was very poor. A reason I suspected the enumerator was French was that if they were asked to spell the name the letter G in french sounds like J. I'm assuming the name Gent is pronounced as in "gentle".
Re: your related note. As a born & bred Yorkshireman I would consider it a disability to be born in Lancashire.
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Ship: PERUVIAN
Shipping Line: Allan Line Steamship Co.
Departure Port and Date (yyyy/mm/dd): Liverpool, England - [1889-03-28]
Londonderry, Ireland - [1889-03]
Port and Date of Arrival: Baltimore, MD - [1889-04-09]
Halifax, N.S. -
Remarks: Date of arrival may apply to Halifax only
Reference: RG 76
Microfilm: C-4514
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e148/e003676388.jpg
[Jno & Richd have their ages listed in the single men's column]
EDIT - REMOVED SOME DOUBLE POSTED CENSUS INFO
A lookup at
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/post-offices/001001-100.01-e.php
gets: St. Laurent - SW 1/4 Sec. 34, Twp. 16, R. 4, WPM - 1936-10-01
[Take the Thompson Hwy (i.e., Provincial 6) NW out of Winnipeg. It hits L Manitoba at St Laurnent - T18 R4 would be 2 township blocks N of St Laurent.
A Twp block is 6m x 6m and contains 36 sections - i.e., 144 quarter sections (the usual homestead size).
St. Eustache - Sec. 33, Twp 11, R. 3, W1 - 1887-02-01
Ashville - Sec. 24, Twp. 25, R. 21, W1 - 1901-06-01
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/land/land-grants-western-canada-1870-1930/Pages/search.aspx
Name: John Gent
Part:NE
Section:4
Township:25
Range:22
Meridian:W1
Folio:145
Liber:105
Microfilm Reel Number:C-6017
Item Number:28740
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e119/e002952847.jpg
[Next twp block to W of Ashville - looking at Section #s, it's 10 m to W, and 3 m to S of Ashville PO]
[John's letters patent (i.e., title) are dated 16/1/1896]
Name: Richard Gent
Part:SW
Section:9
Township:18
Range:4
Meridian:W1
Folio:336
Liber:724
Microfilm Reel Number:C-6515
Item Number:465973
[No image avaibl]
LIBER DATES REEL NUMBER
105 Dec. 02, 1895 - June 01, 1896 C-6017-C-6018
724 Dec. 09, 1916 - Dec. 14, 1916 C-6515
This gives a range during which title was granted.
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1891 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1891/pdf/30953_148096-00186.pdf
I can't find them in 1901 - you can search yourself via:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx
1906 Census Page Data
District: MB Macdonald District (#4)
Subdistrict: 16 (Townships 10, 11, 12 (whole or fractional) in ranges 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 west, south of the Assiniboine river) Page 33
31 240 Gent Richard Head M S 35
32 240 Gent William hired man M S 19
33 241 Gent John Head M S 50
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e049/e001203127.pdf
[addy=St Eustache S5 T12 R3 W1M; Wm immig 1906]
[St Eustache is abt 10km N of the TransCanada Hwy, midway between Winnipeg & Portage la Prairie]
1911 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001945729.pdf
[The addy is Tp 18 R 4 - it's clearer on the previous page]
1916 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21930/pdf/31228_4363959-00355.pdf
1916 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21930/pdf/31228_4363959-00357.pdf
[both say addy=Coldwell]
If you use this link, you can search 1921 and view images for free:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
I don't know if he's your Wm:
1921 Census of Canada about William Gent
Name: William Gent
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Constance Ethel Gent
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1904
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Manitoba
District: Selkirk
District Number: 35
Sub-District Number: 2
City, Town or Village: West Kildonan
Section Number: 164 Barren Ave
Municipality: West Kildonan
Occupation: Blockman
Income: 300
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gent 36
Constance Ethel Gent 25
Dorothy Margaret Gent 2
[Kildonan is now a northern suburb of Winnipeg]
A lookup at
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/post-offices/001001-100.01-e.php
gets: St. Laurent - SW 1/4 Sec. 34, Twp. 16, R. 4, WPM - 1936-10-01
[Take the Thompson Hwy (i.e., Provincial 6) NW out of Winnipeg. It hits L Manitoba at St Laurnent - T18 R4 would be 2 township blocks N of St Laurent.
A Twp block is 6m x 6m and contains 36 sections - i.e., 144 quarter sections (the usual homestead size).
St. Eustache - Sec. 33, Twp 11, R. 3, W1 - 1887-02-01
Ashville - Sec. 24, Twp. 25, R. 21, W1 - 1901-06-01
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Thank you all for your replies. I have the information up to the 1871 census, but was unable to find any of the family on the 1881. I have the record of Robert registered in 1880 but he was born on 22nd December 1879, a copy of his birth certificate was copied dated 1902.
We had a rumour that John went to Canada so the Canada link from yourselves had helped tremendously. If any one has any more information about the later years in Canada as we also had a rumour that he may have married again?
The results of Ann and Robert I do have the information after the 1891census and the death of Ann in 1905.
Alan
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