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1841 census transcription details for: Smythy House, Rochdale, Spotland

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 551
Book/Folio: 6/51
Page: 7
Reg. District: Rochdale
Sub District: Spotland Further Side
Parish: Rochdale
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Rochdale
Address: Smythy House, Rochdale, Spotland
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HOWARTH, John M 45 1796 Lancashire
HOWARTH, Sarah F 40 1801 Lancashire
HOWARTH, Martha F 20 1821 Lancashire
HOWARTH, Peggy F 15 1826 Lancashire
HOWARTH, Alice F 15 1826 Lancashire
HOWARTH, Molly F 10 1831 Lancashire
HOWARTH, James M 3 1838 Lancashire
HOWARTH, John M 5 1836 Lancashire

Please check the date info you have posted......................1851 shows different birth years for the older 'children'

1851 census


Person: HOWARTH, Edmund Address: Hartley Street, Heap

HOWARTH, John Head Married M 58 1793 Labourer
Wardle VIEW
HOWARTH, Sarah Wife Married F 50 1801
Todmorden VIEW
HOWARTH, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 25 1826 Servant
Wardle VIEW
HOWARTH, Molly Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 Weaver
Wardle VIEW
HOWARTH, James Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Weaver
Wardle VIEW
HOWARTH, John Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Weaver Cotton
Spotland VIEW
HOWARTH, Edmund Son Unmarried M 7 1844
Heap VIEW
HOWARTH, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848
Heap VIEW
HOWARTH, Hannah Daughter Unmarried F 0 (2 MOS) 1851
Heap VIEW

According to 1851 census, Sarah was born in Todmorden.......which is partly in Yorkshire

Are you sure about this? I find it very difficult to believe that a woman had her first child at age 15 and carried on till she was over 50. There are some big gaps in the dates of birth which make me suspect at least two different mothers.
What was your John Howarth's occupation? There are a lot of couples called John and Sarah Howarth.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1332357

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1321226

In that case, it would avoid misunderstanding if you told us us where you have looked.....................and you should also give location info when you ask for help...........

I would doubt that Sarah was giving birth when she was over 50.

I am on lancs opc please stop answering any of my posts.

Mark

You know about LancsOPC site.........please use it

Birth would give Sarah's maiden name

Births Mar 1851 Howarth Hannah Bury 21 348

For info...


..1851 England Census
about Edmund Howarth Name: Edmund Howarth
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Howarth
Mother's Name: Sarah Howarth
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Heap

Civil Parish: Heap
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration District: Bury
Sub-registration District: Birtle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1k
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 120
Piece: 2213
Folio: 426
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
John Howarth 58
Sarah Howarth 54
Alice Howarth 25
Molly Howarth 22
James Howarth 15
John Howarth 14
Edmund Howarth 7
Sarah Howarth 3
Hannah Howarth 2 Mo

1851

Name: John Howarth
Mother: Sarah Howarth
Father: John Howarth
Birth: abt 1837 - Spotland
Residence: 1851 - Heap, Lancashire, England

Where were these children born?

Seeking a marriage for the above who married Sarah. Sarah born c.1797 her children are

Peggy c1812
Alice c1817
John c1819
William 1818
Molly 1829
James 1836
John 1837
Edmund 1844
Sarah 1848
Hannah 1851

Many thanks