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got all of the above from the wonderful lady at the cemetery!!!

Here is the MAJOR in Ottawa as CAPT JOHN of the Royal Canadian and Mechanical Engineers so that ties him to John Watson as well.

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/48459351/

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and here he is listed as MAJOR J W Whittingham of Sherbourne AVE

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/44472049/

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and here as MAJOR with Yvonne - article about their house and garden

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/42530909/
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The Major was quite the horticulturist:

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/44472049/
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In 1971 he was referred to as simply John W Whittingham - no MAJOR in his son's wedding announcement:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1946&dat=19710118&id=-o4zAAAAIBAJ&sjid=l6EFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2271,4425057
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And here is Yvonne's obit listing him as JACK - notice the names of the children are the same as mentioned in the article re their home

http://www.federationgenealogie.qc.ca/avisdeces/avis/pdf?id=79065

Interestingly, Yvonne's obituary was in both an Ottawa newspaper and a Kingston, Ontario newspaper and the funeral service was held at a Kingston funeral home. None of her children lived there. Kingston is about a 2 hr drive from Ottawa.
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Of course none of this proves that the John WW in Maple Grove is the same man but you'd wonder how many John W Whittinghams there could be in the Ottawa area at the time. I'd feel more comfortable saying it was the same man if it had MAJOR on his marker :-) and if we had another later address for him other than Sherbourne but I can find nothing more recent. Maple Grove Cemetery is not a great distance from his Sherbourne home address in the '60's but there are closer cemeteries and I'd wonder why he was buried there in 1982, except that it is one of our older cemeteries. Maple Grove would be considered to be in a suburb of Ottawa. It is about a 15 min drive away from the Sherbourne address.

Aft

Can't leave this one. Is this the death of John Watson's wife Yvonne?

http://www.federationgenealogie.qc.ca/avisdeces/avis/pdf?id=79065

It mentions children, grandchildren and great grandchildren in New Brunswick, Texas and California.

I will also look for him but it will be later this week as work gets in the way of play for a few days now! Also just think I have found jack and Betty 's email address on a naval/ military site so have forwarded on to jack. Xx

My Thomas Turnbull was born in Ingleton, Durham and died in Scaling, Yorkshire. His parents and grandparents were also from Durham. I'd like to trace him back to Scotland because I know there was a border clan of Turnbulls but I'm at the proverbial dead-end.

Where was Thomas Trumbull from? There area few Turnbulls in this area of west lancashire.

Just found a link to HMCS Gloucester and it mention a Jack Whittingham - I checked the previous article as it said Jack was in the navy. Sadly the URL is no longer there.
Well I am away to bed now , am up at 6 am for work in the morning :-(
Take care, and thanks again <3

Don't worry, Eunice, I didn't go out of my way, had to do a little shopping, the library was on my way. We have a wonderful staff at our library, they go out of their way to help so it was a pleasure.

And don't worry about my name spelling, actually I'm Margaret but when I was choosing a board name they wouldn't let me use Margaret, Marg or Margie because they were already in use so I decided on Margee because nobody else had that name.

www.newspapers.com/newspage/42530909/? - check this out!! Major Jack and Yvonne at home!!! some of the spelling is a bit mixed and broken, but its them!!

Stupid iPad. I know you are Margee and not Margery but stupid thing changed your name as I sent it off gggrrrhhhh

Margery you are just too kind. I did not expect you to do this for me, to go to such a length, but thanks you so very much <3

i took a little trip to the library this afternoon to see if I could find obits for Joseph & Bertha in the hopes they might mention grandchildren. No luck, I'm afraid, I couldn't find an obit for Joseph, found one for Bertha but it didn't tell us anything that we didn't already know. It read:
BERTHA WHITTINGHAM
At ottawa at the residence of her son on Saturday, December 13th., Bertha Watson beloved wife of the late Joseph Whittingham. Mother of Major Jack Whittingham of Ottawa. Funeral 16th. December.

OH THANK you, I will pass it on to Jack x

The full details of the Whittingham/Berry marriage are here:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1946&dat=19710118&id=-o4zAAAAIBAJ&sjid=l6EFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2271,4425057

all I can find on Patrick Gerald Whittingham is that he was born in 1948 or 1949. As BM'D said - quite a high profile on Google!!!! ;-)

Margee, I am sorry about your husband, and fully appreciate the pull on your time. I was caregiver to my sister for 18/12 until she died a couple of weeks before Christmas. I fully understand how tiring it can be, but rewarding also, and you do need something to occupy the little grey cells as well, eh? Bless you.
I note JWW was still listed as army on the 1957 voters list. Do you think he may also have served somewhere like Korea? I'm afraid I'm not very good at this am I? :-(
But I must tell you that Jack is delighted with all your stirling efforts, so thanks again to both of youxx

hi girls. Well then ….. I have spoken to Jack. Seemingly his mum was nursing when JW came over to the UK from Canada, for Officer Training at Sandhurst. They met and - well hello Jack!! Jack does recall seeing his father once but the memory is indistinct. Jack was born in 1943 by the way. He is happy for all info that people can find, there are no barriers although as he says …… if JWW Was married when Jack was created then it might come as a shock to the other siblings! xxxx

So the son who married in 1971 was born in 1948, so we now have a 4 year window for a marriage IF he married after he returned home in 1944.

My husband just pointed out another register that we have for Woodlawn Cemetery and Bertha is buried there also.
It says Mrs. Bertha Whittingham buried 16 Dec. 1958, aged 77 years, 7 months, 23 days. Her residence at the time was Ottawa. She's buried in the same plot as Joseph but her name isn't on the gravestone.

For Joseph it says buried 17 May 1957, aged 74 years, 8 months, 10 days. His residence was Cornwall.

So if John went to his parents home in 1944, and then we have his sons marriage in 1971, it's not leaving a huge window for John and Yvonne's marriage.

Let's presume the son was 20 when he married, so his birth year would be approximately 1951.

I doubt John married soon after his return home, maybe the earliest 1946, so we have a possible window of 5 years from 1946 to 1951.

Also another thought, do you know for sure that John wasn't married prior to the war? Could this be a reason he didn't marry the child's (Jack) mother? Did he even know the lady was expecting?

Does Jack know how far he wants to take this?