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thankyou for the info looks interesting will am trying to find living relatives now to see what happened to Eleanor Howard / De Casabianca and if she left a will i think that is the key to my family mystery. thanks Tessa

Historical Records
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 about Mary Forbes Eleanor De Casabianca
Name: Mary Forbes Eleanor De Casabianca
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1903
Father's Name: Louis Howard De Casabianca
Mother's name: Adela Harriett Croft
Birth Place: Gawler West
Registration Place: Port Gawler, South Australia
Page Number: 81
Volume Number: 721

Looks like Joseph Williams travelled with them!!!!

All Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 Results
Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 about Joseph Williams
Name: Joseph Williams
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Age: 39
Arrival Date: 18 Apr 1885
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Lusitania
Nationality: English

Could Nellie be Ellen????

All Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 Results
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Nellie De Casabianca
Name: Nellie De Casabianca
Spouse Name: Joseph Williams
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Number: 1441

And Ellen???

All Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 Results
Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 about Mrs Casabranca
Name: Mrs Casabranca
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Age: 40
Arrival Date: 18 Apr 1885
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Lusitania
Nationality: Foreigner

The daughter,

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Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 about Marie De Casabranca
Name: Marie De Casabranca
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Age: 7
Arrival Date: 18 Apr 1885
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Lusitania
Nationality: Foreigner

Historical Records
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Louis Howard De Casabianca
Name: Louis Howard De Casabianca
Father's Name: Louis Victor De Casabianca
Spouse Name: Adela Harriett Croft
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Woolley Broadstock Croft
Marriage Date: 27 Nov 1901
Marriage Place: Transfiguartion Church Gawler South
Registration Place: Port Gawler, South Australia
Page Number: 738
Volume Number: 209


I doubt very much that Louis Jnr was in Australia by himself

?????

Historical Records
Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 about Louis De Casabranca
Name: Louis De Casabranca
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Age: 10
Arrival Date: 18 Apr 1885
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Lusitania
Nationality: Foreigner

This is Florence in 1871, so it's nothing linked with Eleanor,

Name: Florence Casabianca
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Emile Casabianca
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 209
Piece: 111
Folio: 20
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Emile Casabianca 34
Florence Casabianca 37
Beatrix Casabianca 7
Walter Casabianca 4
Sarah Evans 31
Harriet Hanks 19

thankyou for that will have a look into it later

This maybe a complete red herring??

All Census & Electoral Rolls Results
1891 England Census about Florence Casabianca
Name: Florence Casabianca
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
[Brighton, India]
Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: sculptor

Condition as to marriage: widow

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Brompton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 32
Folio: 47
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age


Too many to post.

Thankyou for that I have access to that will have a look and the marriage might be able to trace forward and find some living relatives, yes the main source of the trees on ancestry is myself and my cousin her tree is on there we are making a joint effort to trace this elusive family, thanks again for your help

That newspaper report will relate to this:

Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%)
De Cas Mary F E Palmer Morewood Marylebone 1a 1247
De Casabianca Mary F E Palmer-Morewood Marylebone 1a 1247
Morewood Rowland C A P De Casabianca Marylebone 1a 1247
Palmer-Morewood Rowland C A De Casabianca Marylebone 1a 1247

Her full name is Mary Forbes Eleanor de Casabianca, according to this:
http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I151434&tree=Nixon

Louis was dead by Sept 1926.
If anyone has a subscription to the British Newspaper Archive, there's this article:


Derby Daily Telegraph Derbyshire, England

21 Sep 1926
TOWN AND COUNTY GOSSIP

Mr. Palmer- Morewood is the only son of the late Mr. and Mrs. C. R. Palmer-Morewood, and a grandson of the late Lord Arthur Hervey, Bishop of Bath and Wells. Miss de Cas is a grand-daughter of the late Louis Victor de Casabianca and the Hon. Ellen Howard

There are some trees on Ancestry with Louis Victor and Marie Louise.
But they're private trees - you would have to contact the tree owners.

thankyou for your interest everybody

There could have been a daughter thankyou for the details I will send for the birth cert,

Yes we have a birth cert for Ralph 7.8.1863 parents William Clegg - boot closer & Sarah Lowman 7Garden Row, West Stockwell, Brixton Sry

Neither Eleanor nor Louis appear on this French site - though I'm not sure how exhaustive its coverage is:

http://www.jeanlouis-garret.fr/actes/index.php/A

Do you have a birth cert for Ralph Clegg?

Where and when was he born?

Wonder if they also had a daughter?

Name: Marie Louise C De Casbianga
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1877
Registration District: Lewisham
County: London
Event Place: Lewisham, London, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Volume: 1D
Page: 974
Line Number: 367