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Eliza Briginshaw

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Monica

Monica Report 26 Feb 2014 21:15

Can you help me
Eliza Briginshaw living in Sussex Road in the parish of Lambeth born 1855 a widow in the 1901 census, would like to know her husbands name and any more info on the family
Thank You

patchem

patchem Report 26 Feb 2014 21:30

What is your connection to Eliza, as you must know a little more about her?

Have you found her in previous censuses?

Thank-you

patchem

patchem Report 26 Feb 2014 21:35

Born Mitcham Surrey in 1901, son William 21, Richard 16, John 14.
?
1881 England Census
Eliza Briginshan ? [Eliza Briginshaw]
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Richard Briginshan ?
Gender: Female
Where born: Mitcham, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England
Street address: 58 Sussex Rd Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Laundress
Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Piece: 616 Folio: 46 Page Number: 26
Richard Briginshan ? 28
Eliza Briginshan ? 21
William Briginshan ? 1
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 616; Folio: 46; Page: 26; GSU roll: 1341142.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 21:37

????

Following patchem's 1881:


Name: Eliza Banks<<<<<<<<<<<
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Age: 17
Spouse Name: Richard Briginshaw - baker<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Feb 1876
Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: James Edward Banks - wheelwright<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Father: Jeffries Briginshaw - baker deceased<<<<<<<<<<<
Register Type: Parish Register

Groom's address Cumberland Cottges, Bride's Allington St.

Witnessses J Harris & Emma Harris

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Feb 2014 21:41

This looks like Richard's death:-


Name: BRIGINSHAW, Richard
Registration district: Lambeth
County: London
Year of registration: 1888
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 39
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 326

Kath. x

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 21:42

Is this her as Fanny Eliza?

Name: Fanny Eliza Banks
Baptism Date: 17 Apr 1859
Archive Provided Parish: Mitcham, St Peter and St Paul
Parish as it Appears: Mitcham
Father: James Edward Banks<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Mary Ann Banks
Reference Number: P40/1/12

Father a wheelwright. Abode Mitcham

EDIT: Still not sure if this is actually Eliza, or perhaps a short-lived sister.

I do believe from marriage and census material that the parents are Eliza's.

Monica

Monica Report 26 Feb 2014 21:45

Eliza is my husbands g grandmother. In the 1901 census she said she was born in 1855 ??? ANY MORE INFO
Many thanks to one and all

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 21:45

???

Name: James Edward Banks - wheelwright
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Sermon
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Mar 1856
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Banks - cow keeper
Spouse Father: James Sermon - cab prop
Register Type: Parish Register

No forename recorded for groom's father.

Both Bride and Groom's address given as Union St.

Monica

Monica Report 26 Feb 2014 21:52

Thank you all for all your help
Regards monica

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 21:53

Well in 1891 she says born c1861, so she's flexible with her age!

Address: 82, Effra Parade, East Brixton County: London

BRIDGENSHAW, Eliza Head Widow F 30 1861 Charwoman
Mitcham, Surrey
BRIDGENSHAW, William Son M 4 1887 Scholar Brixton, Surrey
BRIDGENSHAW, Richard Son M 6 1885 Scholar Brixton, Surrey
BRIDGENSHAW, John Son M 4 1887 Scholar Brixton, Surrey

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 21:59

Baptisms for Eliza and Richard's children.

Name: Richard Briggenshaw
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Oct 1886
Father's Name: Richard Briggenshaw
Mother's name: Eliza Briggenshaw
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brixton St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Walter Briganshaw
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Feb 1884
Father's Name: Richard Briganshaw
Mother's name: Eliza Briganshaw
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brixton St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers
(Father a labourer) Abode Brixton.

Name: John James Briggenshaw
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Oct 1886
Father's Name: Richard Briggenshaw
Mother's name: Eliza Briggenshaw
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brixton St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: William Briggenshaw
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Oct 1886
Father's Name: Richard Briggenshaw
Mother's name: Eliza Briggenshaw
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brixton St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

In the 1886 batch baptisms father is a painter. Address is Sussex Road.

Looks like little Walter died young - reason why he's not in the 1891 census

Deaths Mar 1884 Briginshaw Walter 1 Lambeth 1d 337

safc

safc Report 26 Feb 2014 22:05

????

Births Sep 1856 (>99%)
Banks Fanny Wandsworth 1d 359
Banks Fanny Eliza Wandsworth 1d 359

Monica

Monica Report 26 Feb 2014 22:08

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR GREAT HELP
REGARDS MONICA

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 22:09

Fanny Eliza Banks had father James Edward, a wheelwright, at her baptism, which ties with Father's name and occupation on Eliza Bank's marriage.

Monica

Monica Report 26 Feb 2014 22:14

THANK YOU
THIS WILL KEEP ME GOING FOR A WHILE
MONICA

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 22:15

This might be a complete and utter red herring and there's no direct connection yet, but Richard's father on his marriage was Jeffries Briginshaw a deceased baker.

I just wondered whether he was possibly a descendant of this marriage a generation or two down .

Name: Richard Briginshaw<<<<<<<
Spouse Name: Millicent Jefferies<<<<<<<<<<<<
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Feb 1787
Parish: St Andrew by the Wardrobe
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Register

As I say, no direct relationship established at all. Just caught my eye.

EDIT: Are these two the parents of Richard Jeffries Briginshaw whose 1788 baptism in West Wycomber,I have posted on the second page of this thread?

They would be Richard who married Eliza Banks' great grandparents if so.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 22:25

Death of Richard's father????

Deaths Sep 1869 Briginshaw Jeffries 55 Lambeth 1d 308

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 22:29

Richard and parents in 1851 census:

Address: 4, Clarendon Retreat, Lambeth County: Surrey

BRIGINSHAW, Jefferies Head Married M 38 1813 Baker (Joury)
Taplow, Buckinghamshire
BRIGINSHAW, Ann Wife Married F 38 1813 London
BRIGINSHAW, William Son M 9 1842 Hampton, Middlesex
BRIGINSHAW, George Son M 5 1846 Wandsworth, Surrey
BRIGINSHAW, Richard Son M 1 1850 Surrey<<<<<<<


Father not with the family in 1861:

Address: 1, Frederick Road, Lambeth County: London, Surrey

BRIGINSHAW, Charlotte A Head Lodger Married F 48 1813 Mangling
Hampton, Middlesex
BRIGINSHAW, George Son Unmarried M 14 1847 Errand Boy
Wandsworth, Surrey
BRIGINSHAW, Richard Son Unmarried M 11 1850 Scholar
Wandsworth, Surrey<<<<<<<<<<<<<
BRIGINSHAW, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 8 1853 Scholar
Kennington, Surrey
MELLIT, Eliza Nursechild Unmarried F 4 1857 Scholar
Not Known

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 26 Feb 2014 22:35

Father Jeffries born Taplow in census 1851


Name: Jeffries Brigenshaw<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 13 Jun 1813
Christening Place: TAPLOW,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Richard Jeffries Brigenshaw
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sophia
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07372-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919250
Reference ID:

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Feb 2014 22:36

Re-marriage for Eliza:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Eliza Brigenshaw
Name: Eliza Brigenshaw
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Age: 42
Spouse Name: Frederick Townsend
Spouse Age: 41
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Jun 1902
Parish: Brixton St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: James Edward Bank
Spouse Father: James Townsend
Register Type: Parish Register