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Thank you for all the info on Gladys farrow , she is a cousin but not the one I'm after also the Pigdens are my relations I got the info from a Edward Webster of of hot matches , he says Gladys Pigden was age 3 in 1911 Her middle name Irene , Every thing else he said I've found

That would fit with following birth:-

Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
Farrow Daniel R Murphy Prescot 8b 1290

and Gladys birth abt. 1920 (which would fit with birth I posted earlier) so much later than 1908.
So if this couple went to Australia looks like we can eliminate them from search. (Unless they came back to the UK)

There is a passenger list with Daniel R Farrow and wife Gladys and son anthony aged 11 going to Melbourne.

Their address is 14 nelson Rd Central, Great Yarmouth.

Daniel is 33 and Gladys is 31.

Daniel is down as an Assembler.




UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Daniel R Farrow
Name: Daniel R Farrow
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Birth Date: abt 1918
Departure Date: 12 Oct 1951
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name: Chitral
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Chitral' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: P and O
Official Number: 148861
Master: J C W Last O B E

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Gladys May Farrow
Name: Gladys May Farrow
Probate Date: 10 Feb 1966
Death Date: 29 Nov 1965
Death Place: Lincolnshire, England
Registry: London, England

Of Church St, Goxhill Lincolnshire died 29th November 1965 probate London 10 Feb. to Malinda Mary Barrick and Mary Elsie Holmes married women £2668.

We need Doreen to come back and comment on all this.

Herbert Pigden

England, Norfolk Register of Electors, 1844-1952

other: from 1910 to 1911 , Yarmouth, Norfolk, England


Herbert Pigden

England, Norfolk Register of Electors, 1844-1952

other: from 1911 to 1912 , Yarmouth, Norfolk, England



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I think this may be the Gladys E. Pigden who married in 1939 Norfolk:-

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Pigden Gladys E Hodds Yarmouth 4b 22

1891
PIGDEN, Richard Head Married M 38 1853 Waterman Barge
Sydenham, Kent
PIGDEN, ? Wife Married F 32 1859
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
PIGDEN, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 14 1877
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
PIGDEN, Job Son Single M 11 1880
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
PIGDEN, George Son Single M 9 1882
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
PIGDEN, Herbert Son Single M 7 1884
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
PIGDEN, Henry Son Single M 5 1886
Gordeston, Suffolk
PIGDEN, Edgar Son Single M 3 1888
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
PIGDEN, Florence Daughter Single F 0 (11M) 1891
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
Piece: 1501
Folio: 139
Page: 13
Registration District: Yarmouth
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
Municipal Borough: Great Yarmouth
Address: No 3 Row 10, George Street, Great Yarmouth
County: Norfolk

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/pigden/thread/1199994

(above looks to relate?)

County Norfolk
Place Great Yarmouth
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber 256
MarriageDate 07 Mar 1875
GroomForename Richard
GroomSurname PIGDEN
GroomAge 22
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Fisherman
GroomAbode Row
BrideForename Mary Ann
BrideSurname JACKMAN
BrideAge 18
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Row
GroomFatherForename Richard
GroomFatherSurname PIGDEN
GroomFatherOccupation Gardener
BrideFatherForename James
BrideFatherSurname JACKSON
BrideFatherOccupation Rope Maker
WitnessOneForename Daniel
WitnessOneSurname RIVETT
WitnessTwoForename Emily
WitnessTwoSurname STRUTT

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

(apology folks, as off Gladys query!)

Still don't see Herbert in 1911.

???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Herbert W Pigden
Name: Herbert W Pigden
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1912
Age at Death: 29
Registration district: Yarmouth
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 6



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Herbert William Pigden
Name: Herbert William Pigden
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1883
Registration district: Yarmouth
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 32

That's a possibility, Catherine.

On the other hand, here's the marriage of a Herbert Pigden in Yarmouth in 1907 -- Gladys's father??


Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
ELLIS Caroline Louisa Yarmouth 4b 59
JACKSON Mary Ann E Yarmouth 4b 59
PIGDEN Herbert William Yarmouth 4b 59
TODD Bertie James Yarmouth 4b 59

Have you got the correct spelling?

1911 census: Gladys Ethele PIDGEON 4yrs Ilford, Essex. Father shows as Henry PIDGEON 40yrs.Edmonton, Middlesex.
Living Islington.

BMD's: Gladys Ethel PIDGEON 1906Q4 Romford, Essex

There is a Gladys V.Roberts born in Fulham in 1915 so later than stated so maybe not?

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Roberts Gladys V May Fulham 1a 532

EDIT
There's also a Herbert G.Pigden born in Fulham

Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
PIGDEN Herbert G Taylor Fulham 1a 449

so no connection to Great Yarmouth?

Born in 1908 but not married untill 1939, not impossible I know but it is also possible that she was married before and Pigden was her married name?

???

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Gladys V Roberts
Name: Gladys V Roberts
Spouse Surname: Pigden
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1936
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 832

Marriages Dec 1936 (>99%)
Pigden Herbert G Roberts Fulham 1a 832

............so could Herbert be her husband and not her father????

I wish these posters would stay with the thread to answer our questions.

I can't see her birth either, nor on the 1911 census.

No sign of Herbert Pigden in 1911.

No Brusch / Pigden marriage in England/Wales.
No Brusch marriage to a Gladys of any surname.

Where did you get your information, Doreen?

No, they married too late. (That's if Gladys was indeed born 1908 - I can't see her birth on FreeBMD.)

This would be the marriage of the above Harry and Nelly:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Harry Leonard Pigden
Name: Harry Leonard Pigden
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909
Registration district: Yarmouth
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 62
Records on Page:
Name

Ellen Maud Hodds
Harry Leonard Pigden

Can't find her on the census!

???
Don't see a Herbert or a Gladys in 1911 - so far.

1911 England Census about Elsie Pigden
Name: Elsie Pigden
Age in 1911: 5/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Great Yarmouth
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: No 5 Row 109 King Street, Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Yarmouth
Registration District Number: 219
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 11067
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Pigden 24
Nelly Pigden 20
Elsie Pigden 5/12

???
Different middle initial, if it's her.

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Gladys May Farrow
Name: Gladys May Farrow
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1908
Date of Registration: May 1988
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 7
Page: 539