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Jane Turner 1860 Dalton in Furness

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Flip

Flip Report 7 May 2014 07:32

Thanks Chris, yes I've just found the info from findagrave - found the one for Isaac Mawson as well, but no more info on his.

It really does look like the right death for the child - I can't see another Josiah born which would match. Guess they went back to cornwall for a while.

Mary

Mary Report 7 May 2014 08:48

Ella Jones born 16/8/1888 died 25th May 1980 in Ulverston.

1911 she is a barmaid named Ellaline !! Eva born Mexico.

Maryb.

Flip

Flip Report 7 May 2014 09:25

Thanks Mary, especially the dod.

I'm going down to the library see if I can find Jane's marriage certificates in the parish records - see what status she puts.

Pretty sure now that death for Isaac Mawson is him - so thanks everyone. I'm not 100% on John Eva, it looks promising but there were a number of John Eva's about in Cornwall on 1871 of a similar age - at least 2 of them were miners.

As for Joseph Cook, I haven't a clue where he disappeared to :-S I'll see if his son Dixon Cook got married at the parish church, see what that gives.

Dea

Dea Report 7 May 2014 10:17

It doesn't seem to help much with your main query but there is a fascinating website on this family.

You probably have found this already but if not :

http://users.tpg.com.au/havik/genealogy/FMMFP.html

Dea x

Flip

Flip Report 7 May 2014 11:53

Thanks Dea, very interesting a lot of work has gone into that, and it confirms Josiah's parents Samuel/Jane Reid.

Well not a great deal of luck at the RO, it appears she didn't marry Josiah or Isaac in church - well at least not in Dalton. However, she did marry Joseph Cook in church claiming to be a widow. I'm now inclined to believe this as her ex mother-in-law, sister-in-law & brother-in-law were all living very close by.

Sorry for all the time spent on a wild goose chase, but it looks likely Josiah died in Mexico but hasn't been registered. Just wish we could have found the family returning to the UK to confirm this.

One of the witnesses to the Cook/Eva marriage was his brother Dixon Cook - who can be found in the census records round the corner from Jane 1891/01/1911 - so I guess Joseph must have died somewhere for her to marry Isaac in 1897? Guess it would be dangerous for a bigamous marriage in a fairly small community, especially when her son Dixon Cook was living with her.

Thanks for all the help, great as usual :-D

Philip

Philip Report 8 May 2014 20:57

I found this could it be the one you are looking for Josiah Eva died in 1883 in Redruth age 4
Regards .
Eileen

Philip

Philip Report 8 May 2014 21:03

Also found this Jane Turner married to Josiah Eva in Ulverston Cumbria 1878

Flip

Flip Report 8 May 2014 21:46

Thank you Eileen all help is greatly appreciated. The death for young Josiah is indeed the correct one, I had totally overlooked this as it appeared to be in the wrong area. And yes, that is the marriiage I found for Jane/Josiah which started this search.

Poor woman, I'd dubbed her the black widow as she seemed to gain husbands/children but I could never find the deaths of her husbands. I now assume 1st husband Josiah died in Mexico, but we still dont have the death of Joseph Cook the second husband! I can't find him anywere :-S

Although thanks to you lot I do now have the death of the third husband - my great uncle! My great gran always wondered what happened to her brother - she was round the corner from him in 1891 but lost contact with him after she moved with her new husband to Lindale. She knew of of Isaacs wedding though, as she wrote to her twin Margaret of it.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 May 2014 08:10

Looking at the 1891 census for Jane and Joseph I see he's an out of work iron miner.

He possibly went elsewhere to find work so his death could be outside the area (haven't found him in Utah though!)

Flip

Flip Report 9 May 2014 08:18

Yes, that was my thought Marie - it could be anywhere and the name is pretty common so difficult to be sure. Maybe she packed him off to Mexico :-D

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 May 2014 08:30

Perhaps she was on commission for an overseas mining agent and got a bonus for any husbands she sent them?