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Jane Turner 1860 Dalton in Furness

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 May 2014 08:30

Perhaps she was on commission for an overseas mining agent and got a bonus for any husbands she sent them?

Flip

Flip Report 9 May 2014 08:18

Yes, that was my thought Marie - it could be anywhere and the name is pretty common so difficult to be sure. Maybe she packed him off to Mexico :-D

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 May 2014 08:10

Looking at the 1891 census for Jane and Joseph I see he's an out of work iron miner.

He possibly went elsewhere to find work so his death could be outside the area (haven't found him in Utah though!)

Flip

Flip Report 8 May 2014 21:46

Thank you Eileen all help is greatly appreciated. The death for young Josiah is indeed the correct one, I had totally overlooked this as it appeared to be in the wrong area. And yes, that is the marriiage I found for Jane/Josiah which started this search.

Poor woman, I'd dubbed her the black widow as she seemed to gain husbands/children but I could never find the deaths of her husbands. I now assume 1st husband Josiah died in Mexico, but we still dont have the death of Joseph Cook the second husband! I can't find him anywere :-S

Although thanks to you lot I do now have the death of the third husband - my great uncle! My great gran always wondered what happened to her brother - she was round the corner from him in 1891 but lost contact with him after she moved with her new husband to Lindale. She knew of of Isaacs wedding though, as she wrote to her twin Margaret of it.

Philip

Philip Report 8 May 2014 21:03

Also found this Jane Turner married to Josiah Eva in Ulverston Cumbria 1878

Philip

Philip Report 8 May 2014 20:57

I found this could it be the one you are looking for Josiah Eva died in 1883 in Redruth age 4
Regards .
Eileen

Flip

Flip Report 7 May 2014 11:53

Thanks Dea, very interesting a lot of work has gone into that, and it confirms Josiah's parents Samuel/Jane Reid.

Well not a great deal of luck at the RO, it appears she didn't marry Josiah or Isaac in church - well at least not in Dalton. However, she did marry Joseph Cook in church claiming to be a widow. I'm now inclined to believe this as her ex mother-in-law, sister-in-law & brother-in-law were all living very close by.

Sorry for all the time spent on a wild goose chase, but it looks likely Josiah died in Mexico but hasn't been registered. Just wish we could have found the family returning to the UK to confirm this.

One of the witnesses to the Cook/Eva marriage was his brother Dixon Cook - who can be found in the census records round the corner from Jane 1891/01/1911 - so I guess Joseph must have died somewhere for her to marry Isaac in 1897? Guess it would be dangerous for a bigamous marriage in a fairly small community, especially when her son Dixon Cook was living with her.

Thanks for all the help, great as usual :-D

Dea

Dea Report 7 May 2014 10:17

It doesn't seem to help much with your main query but there is a fascinating website on this family.

You probably have found this already but if not :

http://users.tpg.com.au/havik/genealogy/FMMFP.html

Dea x

Flip

Flip Report 7 May 2014 09:25

Thanks Mary, especially the dod.

I'm going down to the library see if I can find Jane's marriage certificates in the parish records - see what status she puts.

Pretty sure now that death for Isaac Mawson is him - so thanks everyone. I'm not 100% on John Eva, it looks promising but there were a number of John Eva's about in Cornwall on 1871 of a similar age - at least 2 of them were miners.

As for Joseph Cook, I haven't a clue where he disappeared to :-S I'll see if his son Dixon Cook got married at the parish church, see what that gives.

Mary

Mary Report 7 May 2014 08:48

Ella Jones born 16/8/1888 died 25th May 1980 in Ulverston.

1911 she is a barmaid named Ellaline !! Eva born Mexico.

Maryb.

Flip

Flip Report 7 May 2014 07:32

Thanks Chris, yes I've just found the info from findagrave - found the one for Isaac Mawson as well, but no more info on his.

It really does look like the right death for the child - I can't see another Josiah born which would match. Guess they went back to cornwall for a while.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 May 2014 07:18

Burial
Day Month 17-Mar
Year 1883
Parish Or Reg District Gwennap
Forename Josiah
Surname EVA
Age 4
Residence Lannarth
Notes old ground

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/


(Utah Eva on below, with info.)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

Chris :)

edits

Baptism (if him)
County Cornwall
Place Wendron
Church St Wendron
RegisterNumber 1641
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 06 Aug 1858
Forename Joseph
Sex M
FatherForename Samuel
MotherForename Jane
FatherSurname EVA
MotherSurname
Abode Grigwartha
FatherOccupation Miner

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Flip

Flip Report 7 May 2014 07:13

Didn't realise you could view the death certs on familysearch - cheers for that tip Marie - just had a look at them both, and like you say no more clues there.

Flip

Flip Report 7 May 2014 05:48

Wow, thanks for all this - have been doing a bit of digging around re John Eva - found him on 1900/1910 census with wife Nellie (Franks), and her daughter. He claims to have arrived in US somewhere between 1879-81 depending on which census you look at.

I'm assuming the divorced status refers to his divorce from Nellie. Weird thing though on the 1904 city directory they are living at 62.5 Richards street, same address as given on Isaac Mawson's death cert. There must be some connection between them.

Sorry Alvigal, I don't have Ella's marriage cert to check what she put down for her father though. MC, does the death for John give his address, or father's name please?

That must be Isaac heading out in 1904 - too much of a coincidence not to be him :-D

Thanks all, it's given me something to dig into!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2014 22:12

Re: the John Eva death that safc posted above, again the info on the actual certificate is vague - nothing known about him other than born in England and was single. He also died of TB. Had been in Utah 40 years. Worked in copper mines.

This checks out with a John Eva who is divorced on the 1920 census.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2014 21:53

Could be that Josiah Eva died in Mexico. He's not on British Nationals died overseas but if they were mining and not near a consulate then it might not have been properly registered.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2014 21:47

Have found the death certificate for Isaac Mawson on FamilySearch.

Whoever registered his death didn't know a lot about him.

Born England, been in Salt Lake 19 years. Parents name unknown. Married, but wife's first name unknown. Date of birth not known (appears age guessed).

Died of pulmonary TB 26/04/1921, buried 01/06/1921

Age given as 51. Address 62½ Richards Street

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2014 21:39

I think these may relate to the same man, but there's some variance on dates:

Utah Cemetery Inventory
Name: Isaac Mawson
Birth Date: 1870
Death Date: 1 Jun 1921
Death Place: Salt Lake County
Burial Date: 1 June 1921
Cemetery: Salt Lake City Cemetery
Source: Sexton Records
Grave Location: V-4-10-1-E

Salt Lake City, Utah, Cemetery Records, 1848-1992
Name: Isaac Mawson
Birth Date:
Death Date: abt 1921
Death Place: Salt Lake County
Plot: 41187 X-4-10-E-1
Burial Date: 1 Jun 1921

Utah Death Registers, 1847-1966
Name: Isaac Mawson
Gender: Male
Age: 51
Birth Date: abt 1870
Death Date: 26 Apr 1921
Death County: Salt Lake
State File Number: 1921001834

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2014 21:31

This Isaac is a miner and last lived in Dalton

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Isaac Mauson
Arrival Date: 22 May 1904
Birth Date: abt 1869
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Etruria

He was headed to the Bingham mine, Utah.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2014 21:15

Sounds a bit of an odd one, that Josiah Eva.

Found while looking for any clues in the newspapers

26 August 1871 - Royal Cornwall Gazette

"Josiah Eva, a lad 15 years of age, living at Four Lanes, Wendron, who walked naked along the highway amongst the congregation coming from church"

Do you want the full article?