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A different version of the 1905 marriage says Josiah is an engineer. Doesn't say deceased but depends if question was asked or not:

Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930

Name: Emma Jane Eva
Birth Year: abt 1882
Age: 23
Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1905
Parish: Cheetham, St Luke
Parish as it Appears: Cheetham, St Luke
Father's Name: Josiah Eva

Spouse's Name: Joseph Edward Robinson (33) - book keeper
Spouse's Father's Name: George Robinson - manager at boot maufactory

Neither previously married, both give address as 5 Bradburn Street, Cheetham.

Witnesses: George Robinson and Gertrude Alwynne Robinson

Reference Number: GB127.M339/1/2/2

Do you know if Josiah is down as being deceased on this? I know it doesn't always help.


England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Emma Jane Eva
Name: Emma Jane Eva
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1882
Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1905
Marriage Place: St. Luke'S Church, Cheetham, Lancashire, England
Father: Josiah Eva
Spouse: Joseph Edward Robinson
FHL Film Number: 2113012
Reference ID: p107 no214

or this one?



England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Ella Eva
Name: Ella Eva
Spouse Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1912
Registration district: Ulverston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 1129
Records on Page:
Name
Ella Eva
Johannah Evans
Thomas Jackson
William E G Jones

Thanks all. I think the shipping record is not him, but Gins death could be the first son - there wasn't another Josiah birth registered in the right time frame. So maybe she went down to Cornwall for a time - and the Eva's originated from Redruth. Though I can't place the rest of the family there after they migrated to Furness.

Although I'm 100% on this, father Samuel Eva died in 1890 in Dalton, and mother Jane (widow) was with daughter Eliza Ann (Sleep) in 1891, dieing in 1894 again in Dalton.

No Mary, I can't find them either - rather odd, as they must have returned between 1887-90 (allowing for an error in daughters age).

I can't even find Ella 1889 or any of the others on shipping records,they must have come back shortly after her birth if Jane marries Joseph cook in 1890!!

Maryb.

Flip

I think the occupation on that shipping record is 'Farmer'

Have you considered this for the death of the youngest son?



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Name:Josiah Eva

Estimated birth year:abt 1879

Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1883

Age at Death:4

Registration district:Redruth

Inferred County:Cornwall

Volume:5c

Page:164

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John Eva, "Utah, Deaths and Burials, 1888-1946"
Name: John Eva
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 22 Apr 1921
Burial Place: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Ut.
Death Date: 15 Apr 1921
Death Place: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Ut.
Age: 66
Birth Date: 1855
Birthplace: Cornell, England
Occupation: Miner, Copper Mines
Race: White
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B54939-3
System Origin: Utah-EASy
GS Film number: 26560

Can't find him on the 1880 census in USA. This one's close but he's a James instead of Josiah:

1880 United States Federal Census
about James Eva Name: James Eva
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1856
Birthplace: England
Home in 1880: Adams, Houghton, Michigan
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Miner
Cannot read/write:

Household Members: Name Age
James Eva 24

had a look but can't make it out sorry

Hi Maddie, thanks for that - can you make out the occupation please? I know he was a miner from previous census and occupation given on their marriage.

Forgot to mention, Jane's mother was Ellen Allen the parents married in Kendal but her name was recorded as Allan on the marriage. Jane had 6 older siblings, so I have most of her history - it's what she did with the hubbies I'm interested in ;-)

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New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Josiah Eva
Name: Josiah Eva
Arrival Date: 11 Jul 1879
Birth Date: abt 1856
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Chester
Search Ship Database: Search the Chester in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Hi All,

I've dubbed this one the black widow. She was christened in Dalton in Furness, Lancashire on 4/3/1860, the daughter of Thomas Turner.

In 1878 she married Josiah Eva, who was born 1856 in Wendron, Cornwall, a miner. They had children Josiah (1878, but no death found), as found on 1881 census when she was staying with the in-laws in Dalton, but husband not present. She went on to have Emma Jane (1882) born in Dalton, and Ella (c1889 Mexico).

I've not found a death for the husband, but she went on to marry Joseph Cook 25/12/1890 and they appeared on 1891 census. No sign of youngest son Josiah, just the 2 daughters. They went on to have son Dixon Cook in 1891.

Strike down husband #2, but not found his death. By 1901 she is on the census married to Isaac Mawson (Born Eskdale, Cumberland 1868 - I have all his history), they married in 1897 again at Dalton. She has Emma, Ella, Dixon Cook and another child Isaac Mawson (born 1897 Dalton).

By 1911 she is still around at 2 Devonshire St Dalton, with sons Isaac Mawson & Dixon Cook, stating married but I can't find husband Isaac on the 1911 census.

Have tried shipping lists for the family Eva, no luck. Deaths for any of her 3 husbands or youngest child - again no luck. So what did she do with them???

As ever, any help greatly appreciated :-D