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Potty

Potty Report 22 May 2014 13:43

William also remarried:


England, Select Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910
William Hanson
Gender:Male
Marital Status:Widowed
Birth Date:1817
Marriage Date:16 Aug 1856
Marriage Place:St Laurance, Heanor, Derbyshire, England
Marriage Age:39
Father: John Smedley
Spouse: Sapphira Holmes
FHL Film Number:
2104172

Potty

Potty Report 22 May 2014 12:57

Same father:

England, Select Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910
Amy White
Marital Status:Single
Birth Date:1817
Marriage Date:28 Jan 1839
Marriage Place:St Laurance, Heanor, Derbyshire, England
Marriage Age:22
Father: Lewis White
Spouse: William Frost
FHL Film Number:2104172

Potty

Potty Report 22 May 2014 12:54

Possible 1st marriage for Amy:


Marriages Mar 1839 (>99%)

FROST William Basford 15 541 Scan available - click to view
SLATER Samuel Basford 15 541 Scan available - click to view
WHITE Amy Basford 15 541 Scan available - click to view
Williamson Phebe Basford 15 541

Potty

Potty Report 22 May 2014 12:46

Well, that is odd, Reggie! Amy's father is probably correct as she has a daughter surnamed Frost on the 1851 (from a previous marriage?) but for William's father to be different is unusual.

Tui, Derek on the following thread has Derbyshire parish records. It might be worth seeing if he can look that one up for you.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191073

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2014 11:09

Fascinating......................


Name: William Hanson
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Nov 1843
Event Place: Duffield, Duffield, Derbyshire, England
Gender: Male
Age:
Marital Status: Single
Birth Year (Estimated):
Father's Name: John Smedly
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name: Amy Frost
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Father's Name: Lewis White
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 1041432
Digital Folder Number: 004451968
Image Number: 00081

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2014 11:06

Marriages Dec 1843 (>99%)

Frost Amy Belper 19 395
Hanson William Belper 19 395

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2014 10:59

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
WILLIAM HANSON HEAD MARRIED Male 34 1817 FRAMEWORK KNITTER WHITWICK, LEICESTERSHIRE Image Transcription
AMEY HANSON WIFE MARRIED Female 35 1816 FRAMEWORK KNITTER HEANOR, DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
ELIZABETH FROST DAUGHTER-IN-LAW - Female 12 1839 - HEANOR, DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription*************
WILLIAM HANSON SON - Male 6 1845 - LOSCOE, DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
GEORGE HANSON SON - Male 4 1847 - HEANOR, DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
GEORGE PARKIN LODGER - Male 72 1779 FRAMEWORK KNITTER & RECEIVING PAROCHIAL RELIEF HEANOR, DERBYSHIRE Image


House Name WOODEND
County Nottinghamshire
Hamlet -
Parliamentary Borough -
Municipal Ward -
Registration District BASFORD
Archive Reference HO107
Piece Number 2126
Folio 95
Page 5


**************step-daughter

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2014 10:55

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
WILLIAM HANSON HEAD - Male 26 1845 - DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
EMMA HANSON WIFE - Female 27 1844 - DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
AMY HANSON DAUGHTER - Female 0 1871 - DERBYSHIRE

Street LEE LANE
Parish HEANOR
County Nottinghamshire
Country ENGLAND
Registration District BASFORD
Archive Reference RG10
Piece Number 3480

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2014 10:53

Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
HANSON Amy Basford 7b 118

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2014 08:33

The birth year is not recorded on a census return.

The AGE is recorded, and the transcriber ESTIMATES the birth year based on that entry

So the APPARENT discrepancy, if there is one, is in the transcription


patchem

patchem Report 22 May 2014 06:39

The age on the censuses is frequently wrong by a year.

As the census is taken towards the start of the year, anyone with a birthday later on in the year (the majority of people) will appear to be one year younger than they really are.

For that birth record that you posted, if from free bmd, if you click on 'Belper' it will take you a district information page, if you then click on 'here' (for further information) it lists what Belper consists of. Kirk Langley is part of Belper registration district.

Tui

Tui Report 22 May 2014 02:52

Just wondering if it is likely that Sarah Ann Hanson's birthplace and date could be shown incorrectly on the 1881 census where it indicates Langley as the place of birth and 1873 as the year?

Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
HANSON Sarah Ann Belper 7b 476

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2014 10:06

I have deleted the incorrect record info.

TIP:

When you ask for help - try to tell us ALL you know. It makes a big difference to the searches we carry out

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2014 10:04

Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
HANSON Sarah Ann Belper 7b 476

THIS confirms her birthplace -

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
CHARLES SAMUEL STIRLAND HEAD MARRIED Male 38 1873 MINER - COAL FACE EASTWOOD NOTTS Image Transcription
SARAH ANN STIRLAND WIFE MARRIED Female 38 1873 - LANGLEY DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
ALBERT LESLIE STIRLAND SON - Male 8 1903 - EASTWOOD NOTTS Image Transcription
HAROLD STIRLAND SON - Male 2 1909 - EASTWOOD NOTTS

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2014 10:01

When you obtain the copy of the marriage cert, you will have confirmation of the names of both fathers

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2014 09:59

This one looks likely based on the extra info you have now given

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
WILLIAM HANSON HEAD MARRIED Male 36 1845 COAL MINER LOSCOE, DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
EMMA HANSON WIFE MARRIED Female 37 1844 - MAPPERLEY, DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
AMY HANSON DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 10 1871 SCHOLAR LANGLEY, DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
SARAH A HANSON DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 8 1873 SCHOLAR LANGLEY, DERBYSHIRE Image Transcription
ALBERT HANSON SON SINGLE Male 5 1876 SCHOLAR GREASLEY, NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Image Transcription
BETSY HANSON DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 3 1878 SCHOLAR GREASLEY, NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Image Transcription
WILLIAM HANSON SON SINGLE Male 1 1880 - EASTWOOD, NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Image Transcription

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2014 09:54

Always bear in mind that very few people knew how to spell their names.................census enumerators wrote what they heard.

And transcriptions of records are not always entirely accurate..............it pays always to check the image.

Tui

Tui Report 21 May 2014 09:52

Thank you Reggie for all this helpful information. I also felt I had found the correct family with the Hansons in the 1881 census. But I know Sarah Ann had a brother William who was born in 1880 and he doesn't show so I assumed I was wrong.

I think you are correct about Emily Allen actually being Hannah

Tui

Tui Report 21 May 2014 09:37

Thank you very much indeed. This is a fantastic wealth of really helpful information which I will have to take time to digest and merge with the material I have gathered. Of course you make a very good point about Emily being born in 1859. I hadn't really checked that as the information came from another family member who also told me Charles Samuel was born in 1883. The transition from Stirland to Sterland has definitely confused me. Yes I have been gathering census information which at first was extremely exciting but became less so when I felt I was going to the wrong way. As you suggest I must get the certificates. Again many thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 May 2014 08:36


There is no marriage for William Stirland and Emily Allen...................in any case, if EMILY was born c1859, would she really have been giving birth in 1872?

EDIT

Looks like you may have the correct surname, but incorrect forename

Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)
Allen Hannah Basford 7b 212
Needham Mary Ann Basford 7b 212
SELLARS Joseph Basford 7b 212
STIRLAND William Basford 7b 212