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still searching for my Smith family.
What I have is Alexander Smith b. 18/5/1867 in Hunstanworth Durham. He married Minnie Barron 26/10/1895 she was B 18/91874 and C. 3/10/1875 in Shotley Northumberland . There seems to be no Father only a mother called Mary Jane Smith . I found one child for Alexander and Minnie being Alexander Smith born 1898 in Lanchester whether anymore I dont know as an arthur Smith went to NZ to live and have no date on that. Whether Alexander Smith born 1898 had a son Arthur and it was him that went to NZ this I do not know but any info on Alexander b 1867 and his wife Minnie Barron would be appreciated . I have been on Ancestry and Family search and still cant find much .
Cheers
Margaret

you don't say whether you had found Alexander on any census ............... but to help us get our heads around your family, here are the censuses that I found


1871 Census

Name: Alexander Smith
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Jane Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Hunstonworth, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Hunstonworth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: Stanhope

Jane Smith 28 b.ca 1843, Hunstonworth, Widow, Charwoman
Christopher Smith 5 b.ca 1866, Hunstonworth
Alexander Smith 3
Mary H Smith 1 b.ca 1870, Hunstonworth

Address:- Bolts Hope Mill


several families live in or at Bolts Hope Mill


so Jane married again ....................


1881 Census

Name: Alexander Smith
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Edward Jeffrey
Mother: Jane Jeffrey
Gender: Male
Where born: Hunstonworth, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Hunstonworth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: No 3 Smelt Mill

Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: Stanhope

Edward Jeffrey 30 b.ca 1851, Coldbeck, Cumberland, Labourer
Jane Jeffrey 38 b.ca 1843, Hunstonworth
Christopher Smith 15 b.ca 1866, Hunstonworth, Labourer
Alexander Smith 13
Thomas F. Smith 5 b.ca 1876, Hunstonworth, Scholar
Elizabeth J. Smith 2 b.ca 1879, Hunstonworth


Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)
JEFFERY Edward Weardale 10a 303
SMITH Jane Weardale 10a 303



By 1891, Edward has seemingly accepted 2 of the children as his ...............


1891 Census

Name: Alexander Smith
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Stepson
Mother's name: Jane Jeffrey
Gender: Male
Where born: Castleside, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Healeyfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Lanchester
Sub-registration district: Consett

Edward Jeffrey 40 Stone Quarryman
Jane Jeffrey 47
Thomas F Jeffrey 15 Stone Labourer
Elizabeth J Jeffrey 12 Scholar
Levina Jeffrey 9
Chespohe Smith 25
Alexander Smith 23 Quay Labourer
Foster Jeffrey 4

Now we come to after his marriage ........... and they have several children!


1901 Census

Name: Alexander Smith
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Minnie Smith
Birth Place: Hunstanworth, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Knitsley
Ecclesiastical parish: Castleside St John and Consett Christchurch
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Lanchester
Sub-registration district: Consett

Alexander Smith 33 Coalminer Hewer
Minnie Smith 25 b.ca 1876, Castaway Heads, Northumberland
Hannah J Smith 4 b.ca 1897, Castleside, Durham
May Smith 2 b.ca 1899, Castleside
May E Smith 10 Months b.ca 1900, Castleside

Address:- 15 Park Ter

The image does indeed show 2 children both called May!

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I do not know how Shotley Bridge fits with Hunstonworth ....... but this could be a possible baptism for Alexander


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Alexander Smith

Name: Alexander Smith
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 25 Nov 1867
Baptism Place: Shotley-Bridge, Durham, England
Father: Alexander Smith
Mother: Jane
FHL Film Number: 2107176
Reference ID: 198



well, this one does seem to indicate that the above baptism was Alexander's!!



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Christopher Smith Or Foster

Name: Christopher Smith Or Foster
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 15 Jul 1865
Baptism Place: Hunstanworth,Durham,England
Father: Alexander Smith
Mother: Jane Foster

These records are all from ancestry ........................


and there are 4 Public Family trees with Alexander Smith ................ two of the trees with records and sources

Minnie and children are alone on the 1911 Census. Did Alexander go out to New Zealand alone and then send for them?
....................


1911 Census

Name: Minnie Smith
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Carterways, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Consett
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 27 Gray Street Consett Co Durham
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Lanchester
Registration District Number: 550
Sub-registration district: Consett

Minnie Smith 35 Married
Hannah Jane Smith 14 b.ca 1897, Caslteside
May Smith 12 b.ca 1899, Castleside, Scholar
Mary Ellen Smith 10 b.ca 1901, Castleside, Scholar
Minnie Smith 9 b.ca 1902, Castleside

I cannot find an Alexander born in 1898 Lanchester that is connected with Alexander and Minnie


are you sure that you have connected the correct people???


There IS an Alexander Smith registered in 1897 in Lanchester ............. but there is not an Alexander with parents Alexander and Minnie on censuses OR baptized

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Minnie Barron

Name: Minnie Barron
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 3 Oct 1875
Baptism Place: , Shotley, Northumberland, England
Mother: Mary Jane Barron

This looks like Minnie Barron with her mother in 1881


1881 Census

Name: Mary Jane Barron
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Francis Barron
Mother: Hannah Barron
Gender: Female
Where born: Carterways, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Shotley Low Quarter
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: Crooked Oak

Occupation: Assistant Farmers Daur
Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Bywell

Francis Barron 50 b.ca 1831, Carterway, Farmer of about 40 acres
Hannah Barron 57 b.ca 1824, Brickanside, Durham
Mary Jane Barron 26
Minnie Barron 5 b.ca 1876, Carterways, Granddaughter, Scholar





England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Jane Barron

Name: Mary Jane Barron
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1886
Registration district: Hexham
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 393
Records on Page:
Name
Michael Anderson
Mary Jane Barron



1891 Census

Name: Mary Jane Anderson
[Mary Jane Barson]
[User-submitted-comment]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Michael Anderson
Mother's name: Hannah Barson
Gender: Female
Where born: Hexham, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Healeyfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Lanchester
Sub-registration district: Consett

Michael Anderson 45 Farmer
Mary Jane Anderson 36
Annie Anderson 9
Hannah Barson 67
Minnie Barson 15
George W Kensy 17

Address:- Healing Field


another ancestry member has left a notation that the spelling of Mary Jane's maiden name should be Barron

Baptism
County Durham
Place Hunstanworth
Church St James
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Jul 1866
Forename Christopher
Sex M
FatherForename Alexander
MotherForename Jane
FatherSurname SMITH
MotherSurname FOSTER
Abode Jeffrey's Rake
FatherOccupation Miner
Notes Mother's abode Ramshaw


Burial
County Durham
Place Hunstanworth
Church St James
RegisterNumber 606
BurialDate 24 Feb 1871
Forename Alexander
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname SMITH
Age 34
Abode Low Mill


(above, from below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

so Alexander and Jane married after Christopher's birth



from ancestry ................



England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Alexander Smith

Name: Alexander Smith
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Birth Date: 1836
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1866
Marriage Place: Hunstanworth,Durham,England
Spouse: Jane Foster
FHL Film Number: 252544

This is guesswork .......... this Alexander Smith IS living in Hunstanworth, he IS a lead Miner ................. and so could be the husband of Jane Foster and father of Alexander born ca 1867


1861 Census

Name: Alexander Smith
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: 1837
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Anna Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Hunstanworth, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Hunstanworth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: Stanhope

Anna Smith 55 Widow, Lead Miner's Widow
Thomas Smith 32
William Smith 29
John Smith 28
Alexander Smith 24 Lead Miner
Joseph Smith 20
Susanna Smith 21
Naman Smith 17


1851 Census

Name: Alexander Smith
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Anna Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Hunstonworth, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Hunstonworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Hunstonworth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: St John

Anna Smith 45
Mary Smith 25
Thomas Smith 23
Peter Smith 21
William Smith 19
John Smith 18
Richard Smith 17
Alexander Smith 14
Susanna Smith 11
Joseph Smith 10
Mansan Smith 7
Isabella Marck 56 Lodger



and the family with father in 1841 ...................


1841 Census

Name: Alexander Smith
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Edmondbyers
Hundred: Chester (West Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Weardale
Sub-registration district: Stanhope

Thomas Smith 35
Hannah Smith 35
Mary Smith 15
Thomas Smith 14
Peter Smith 11
William Smith 9
John Smith 7
Richard Smith 5
Alexander Smith 4
Susannah Smith 2
Joseph Smith 1 Mo





I have to go .......... if no-one has given you further information (especially from the censuses on b'dates etc), I will see what I can when I return.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1341011

(above relating, with your other findings Sylvia!)

Chris :)

'Still' searching is the clue...................indicating a previous thread or threads

drat!

sorry guys for not getting back to you sooner but have been off line and trying to find out more from my friend who owns this SMITH family. I would like to thank you all for the info you have posted and for the confusion of wandering off on another generation when I should of posted under the original post. so please accept my apology for doing so.
The latest news on this family is that Alexander born 1867 left England before the 1911 census have not found what year and went to New Zealand and worked in the Huntley coal mines and saved enough money to bring Minnie and the daughters to NZ to live . They had 5 daughters what you have said on here and one more being a Lena Smith and when they all settled Alexander and Minnie had a son which no one could find as he was born in NZ he was Arthur Smith b 19. 11.1916 .
Alexander died 24/11/1943 and Minnie 4/12/1954 and buried in the HillsboroughCemetery Auckland NZ I have been told the reason they came to nZ was Minnie did not get on with her step father whom I believe to be this Michael Anderson mention on the site by Sylvia .. so apart from finding when Minnie and the daughters went to NZ and also Alexander I seem to have most of it all covered now.
Thanks once again for everyones help.
Appreciated as always.
:-) Margaret

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
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First name(s) MINNIE
Last name SMITH
Gender Female
Occupation DAUGHTER
Departure year 1911
Departure day 12
Departure month 12
Departure port LONDON
Destination port AUCKLAND
Destination AUCKLAND
Country NEW ZEALAND
Destination country NEW ZEALAND
Ship name MAMARI
Ship official number 119697
Ship master's first name A
Ship master's last name MORTON
Shipping line SHAW SAVILL & ALBION COMPANY LIMITED
City LONDON
Ship destination port NEW ZEALAND
Ship destination country NEW ZEALAND
Ship square feet 12104
Ship registered tonnage 4539
Number of passengers 529
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

Travelling 3rd class as a daughter of Mrs Smith a Housewife, and also Hannah, May and Mary. All on ticket A602

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz

Registration Number Family Name Given Name(s) Mother's GivenName(s) Father's GivenName(s) Still Birth
1913/12441................. Smith..........Lena.......... Minnie........... Alexander

Thanks greyghost for latest info that was magic

cheers Margaret

Hi Guys have a couple of questions for you and hope someone can tell me. I have on the 1891 census a name of Chespohe Smith 25 . I am trying to find out where she fits into the family. It is a name that is new to me never heard of anyone called that before. She would of been born abt 1869. I know she is not a sibling of Alexander Smith and Jane Foster .
Also one of their sons either Christopher Smith of Thomas Smith/Jeffrey I have been told by family one of them went to Canada to live and one was an alcoholic and died in a work house . I can not find Christopher on the 1891 census so maybe it was him that went to Canada Any help trying to say which one went to Canada would be appreciated and who this Chespohe is.
Thanks.