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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jun 2014 08:31

Margaret, is "Chespohe" the transcription or what it actually says on the image for the name?

ADDED: This is part of the transcription

1891 England Census
Name: Chespohe Smith
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Stepson <<
Mother's name: Jane Jeffrey
Gender: Male
Where born: Castleside, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Healeyfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

I wouldn't have thought a stepson was a she? It says Christopher on the image, so is this the Christopher that you couldn't find in 1891?

Margaret

Margaret Report 21 Jun 2014 09:44

Hi Marie,
I wonder whether you have nailed it and that this is an error on the 1891 census and that the name should say Christopher . As I said I have never heard of such a name had no idea whether male or female it never said . what you have here the date does fit with Christopher and he was born abt 1866 actually 1865 but what you have here says step son and this would not be correct . mother was Jane Foster Smith and she remarried an Edward Jeffrey so that must be another error as well. . but it does seem likely to be my missing Christopher all the same doesnt it?

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 21 Jun 2014 10:36

You should ALWAYS check the IMAGE of censuses

But, in any case, the transcription DOES record the GENDER

You also need to understand that relationships on censuses are to the HEAD of the household

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Castleside, Healeyfield, Lanchester, Durham, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Jeffrey Head Married Male 40 1851 Quarryman Caldbeck, Cumberland Image Transcription
Jane Jeffrey Wife Married Female 47 1844 - Co Durham Hunstunworth Image Transcription
Thomas F Jeffrey Son Single Male 15 1876 Labourer Co Durham Ramsham Image Transcription
Elizabeth J Jeffrey Daughter Single Female 12 1879 Scholar Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription
Levina Jeffrey Daughter Single Female 9 1882 Scholar Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription
? Smith Stepson Single Male 25 1866 Foreman Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription
Alexander Smith Stepson Single Male 23 1868 Quay Labourer Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription
Foster Jeffrey Son Single Male 4 1887 Scholar Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription


The enumerator obviously wasn't very good at spelling.....his version on the image looks more like Chrispoher...and the FMP transcriber chickened-out!

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 21 Jun 2014 10:43

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Campbell Street, Tow Law, Weardale, Durham, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Jeffrey Head Married Male 49 1852 Stone Quarryman Braithwaite, Cumberland Image Transcription
Sarah Jeffrey Wife Married Female 48 1853 - Annfield Plain, Durham Image Transcription
Foster Jeffrey Adopted - Male 14 1887 Driver In Coal Mine Leadgate, Durham Image Transcription

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 21 Jun 2014 10:48

Is this Jane's death?

Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%)
Jeffrey Jane 53 Lanchester 10a 195

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 21 Jun 2014 11:05

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
77 High Street Tow Law Court Durham, Tow Law, Durham, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Jeffrey Head Married Male 60 1851 Retired Quarryman Cumberland Braithwaite Image Transcription
Sarah Jeffrey Wife Wife Female 57 1854 - Durham Greencroft Image Transcription
Cris Whitfield Boarder Single Male 24 1887 Coal Miner Hewer At Face Durham Leadgate Image Transcription


Claims to have been married for 11 years, and have had two children..............but those details are against Edward's name..........not Sarah's

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 21 Jun 2014 11:07

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
Jeffrey Edward Weardale 10a 347 Scan available - click to view
Jeffry Edward Weardale 10a 347 Scan available - click to view
Mossop Sarah Weardale 10a 347 Scan available - click to view
Slater Thomas Henry Weardale 10a 347 Scan available - click to view
Wetton Mary Ann Weardale 10a 347

Margaret

Margaret Report 21 Jun 2014 11:20

my goodness thank you Ricochet for all this info it is more than I intended but very much appreciated . I will for future reference check the transcripts of the census as this was my downfall.
Thank you again

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 9 Jul 2014 09:07

A new thread has been started

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1342393

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Jul 2014 20:25

Ricochet



for your information .....................


I suggested that Margaret started a new thread dealing specifically with Christopher in Canada.

It seemed a good solution to a new problem, and one that would attract Canadian researchers to the thread.



But thank you for pointing out the new thread ................ you rarely miss the opportunity, do you?

Margaret

Margaret Report 10 Jul 2014 00:08

goodness sorry Guys if there has been trouble caused for Sylvia with my query where to go.
it was not my intention to upset anyone who has been helping. Can we put it behind us please as everyone is so helpful why rock the boat ,
Advice and help has been always appreciated on this site and its a shame for something petty to cause friction between such nice people

Margaret

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 11 Jul 2014 21:44

Background info is often helpful when people are new to an enquiry.

Your unpleasantness is unnecessary, Sylvia, and unworthy of you.

it wasn't I who drew attention to this thread on the new one

I am not remotely upset, Margaret, so no need to concern yourself.

There are much more important things to worry about