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Your unpleasantness is unnecessary, Sylvia, and unworthy of you.

it wasn't I who drew attention to this thread on the new one

I am not remotely upset, Margaret, so no need to concern yourself.

There are much more important things to worry about

goodness sorry Guys if there has been trouble caused for Sylvia with my query where to go.
it was not my intention to upset anyone who has been helping. Can we put it behind us please as everyone is so helpful why rock the boat ,
Advice and help has been always appreciated on this site and its a shame for something petty to cause friction between such nice people

Margaret

Ricochet



for your information .....................


I suggested that Margaret started a new thread dealing specifically with Christopher in Canada.

It seemed a good solution to a new problem, and one that would attract Canadian researchers to the thread.



But thank you for pointing out the new thread ................ you rarely miss the opportunity, do you?

A new thread has been started

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1342393

my goodness thank you Ricochet for all this info it is more than I intended but very much appreciated . I will for future reference check the transcripts of the census as this was my downfall.
Thank you again

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
Jeffrey Edward Weardale 10a 347 Scan available - click to view
Jeffry Edward Weardale 10a 347 Scan available - click to view
Mossop Sarah Weardale 10a 347 Scan available - click to view
Slater Thomas Henry Weardale 10a 347 Scan available - click to view
Wetton Mary Ann Weardale 10a 347

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
77 High Street Tow Law Court Durham, Tow Law, Durham, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Jeffrey Head Married Male 60 1851 Retired Quarryman Cumberland Braithwaite Image Transcription
Sarah Jeffrey Wife Wife Female 57 1854 - Durham Greencroft Image Transcription
Cris Whitfield Boarder Single Male 24 1887 Coal Miner Hewer At Face Durham Leadgate Image Transcription


Claims to have been married for 11 years, and have had two children..............but those details are against Edward's name..........not Sarah's

Is this Jane's death?

Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%)
Jeffrey Jane 53 Lanchester 10a 195

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Campbell Street, Tow Law, Weardale, Durham, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Jeffrey Head Married Male 49 1852 Stone Quarryman Braithwaite, Cumberland Image Transcription
Sarah Jeffrey Wife Married Female 48 1853 - Annfield Plain, Durham Image Transcription
Foster Jeffrey Adopted - Male 14 1887 Driver In Coal Mine Leadgate, Durham Image Transcription

You should ALWAYS check the IMAGE of censuses

But, in any case, the transcription DOES record the GENDER

You also need to understand that relationships on censuses are to the HEAD of the household

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Castleside, Healeyfield, Lanchester, Durham, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Jeffrey Head Married Male 40 1851 Quarryman Caldbeck, Cumberland Image Transcription
Jane Jeffrey Wife Married Female 47 1844 - Co Durham Hunstunworth Image Transcription
Thomas F Jeffrey Son Single Male 15 1876 Labourer Co Durham Ramsham Image Transcription
Elizabeth J Jeffrey Daughter Single Female 12 1879 Scholar Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription
Levina Jeffrey Daughter Single Female 9 1882 Scholar Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription
? Smith Stepson Single Male 25 1866 Foreman Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription
Alexander Smith Stepson Single Male 23 1868 Quay Labourer Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription
Foster Jeffrey Son Single Male 4 1887 Scholar Co Durham Castleside Image Transcription


The enumerator obviously wasn't very good at spelling.....his version on the image looks more like Chrispoher...and the FMP transcriber chickened-out!

Hi Marie,
I wonder whether you have nailed it and that this is an error on the 1891 census and that the name should say Christopher . As I said I have never heard of such a name had no idea whether male or female it never said . what you have here the date does fit with Christopher and he was born abt 1866 actually 1865 but what you have here says step son and this would not be correct . mother was Jane Foster Smith and she remarried an Edward Jeffrey so that must be another error as well. . but it does seem likely to be my missing Christopher all the same doesnt it?

Margaret, is "Chespohe" the transcription or what it actually says on the image for the name?

ADDED: This is part of the transcription

1891 England Census
Name: Chespohe Smith
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Stepson <<
Mother's name: Jane Jeffrey
Gender: Male
Where born: Castleside, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Healeyfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

I wouldn't have thought a stepson was a she? It says Christopher on the image, so is this the Christopher that you couldn't find in 1891?

Hi Guys have a couple of questions for you and hope someone can tell me. I have on the 1891 census a name of Chespohe Smith 25 . I am trying to find out where she fits into the family. It is a name that is new to me never heard of anyone called that before. She would of been born abt 1869. I know she is not a sibling of Alexander Smith and Jane Foster .
Also one of their sons either Christopher Smith of Thomas Smith/Jeffrey I have been told by family one of them went to Canada to live and one was an alcoholic and died in a work house . I can not find Christopher on the 1891 census so maybe it was him that went to Canada Any help trying to say which one went to Canada would be appreciated and who this Chespohe is.
Thanks.

Thanks greyghost for latest info that was magic

cheers Margaret

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz

Registration Number Family Name Given Name(s) Mother's GivenName(s) Father's GivenName(s) Still Birth
1913/12441................. Smith..........Lena.......... Minnie........... Alexander

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
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First name(s) MINNIE
Last name SMITH
Gender Female
Occupation DAUGHTER
Departure year 1911
Departure day 12
Departure month 12
Departure port LONDON
Destination port AUCKLAND
Destination AUCKLAND
Country NEW ZEALAND
Destination country NEW ZEALAND
Ship name MAMARI
Ship official number 119697
Ship master's first name A
Ship master's last name MORTON
Shipping line SHAW SAVILL & ALBION COMPANY LIMITED
City LONDON
Ship destination port NEW ZEALAND
Ship destination country NEW ZEALAND
Ship square feet 12104
Ship registered tonnage 4539
Number of passengers 529
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

Travelling 3rd class as a daughter of Mrs Smith a Housewife, and also Hannah, May and Mary. All on ticket A602

sorry guys for not getting back to you sooner but have been off line and trying to find out more from my friend who owns this SMITH family. I would like to thank you all for the info you have posted and for the confusion of wandering off on another generation when I should of posted under the original post. so please accept my apology for doing so.
The latest news on this family is that Alexander born 1867 left England before the 1911 census have not found what year and went to New Zealand and worked in the Huntley coal mines and saved enough money to bring Minnie and the daughters to NZ to live . They had 5 daughters what you have said on here and one more being a Lena Smith and when they all settled Alexander and Minnie had a son which no one could find as he was born in NZ he was Arthur Smith b 19. 11.1916 .
Alexander died 24/11/1943 and Minnie 4/12/1954 and buried in the HillsboroughCemetery Auckland NZ I have been told the reason they came to nZ was Minnie did not get on with her step father whom I believe to be this Michael Anderson mention on the site by Sylvia .. so apart from finding when Minnie and the daughters went to NZ and also Alexander I seem to have most of it all covered now.
Thanks once again for everyones help.
Appreciated as always.
:-) Margaret

drat!

'Still' searching is the clue...................indicating a previous thread or threads

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1341011

(above relating, with your other findings Sylvia!)

Chris :)