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Ricochet

Ricochet Report 10 Jun 2014 09:20

Deaths Jun 1841 (>99%)
Abel Ann Birmingham 16 215


Deaths Dec 1858 (>99%)
Abel Phoebe Birmingham 6d 157

Gee

Gee Report 10 Jun 2014 09:09

A witness on that first marriage is called Baylis



Warwickshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1910


Name:John Abel

Spouse Name:Sarah Baylis

Marriage or Bann Date:
15 Feb 1783
[15 Feb 1785]

Event Type:Marriage

Parish:Bidford on Avon

Jane

Jane Report 10 Jun 2014 09:03

Thank you for all your help MarieCeleste.

That looks like the right family.

all the best

Jane

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Jun 2014 09:02

Possible first marriage:

Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: Giles Abel
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 26 Dec 1817
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Ann Brown
Spouse Gender: Female
Reference Number: DRO 25
Archive Roll: M46

No occupation, address or parents on these early images.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Jun 2014 08:58

Looks like the 1851 for them:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
GILES ABEL HEAD MARRIED Male 55 1796 CHAIR MAKER BIRMINGHAM, WARWICKSHIRE
PHOEBE ABEL WIFE MARRIED Female 60 1791 CHAIR CANER BIRMINGHAM, WARWICKSHIRE

House name COURT 2ND HOUSE
Street GRAHAM STREET
Parish ALL SAINTS BIRMINGHAM
City or borough BIRMINGHAM
Ecclesiastical disctrict SAINT PAUL

Enumeration district 10 Series HO107 Piece number 2059 Folio 209 Page 4

Jane

Jane Report 10 Jun 2014 08:57

Thanks MarieCeleste.

I didnt realise they were widows so I will have to look into that.

I have got this information from my Uncles tree and I am now just starting to check it all out,.

Thanks for your help

Jane

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Jun 2014 08:53

Jane, was this the marriage?

Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: Giles Abel - coal dealer
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 27 Dec 1842
Marriage Age: Full Age
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Phoebe Camwell
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: Full Age
Father: John Abel - Cloth Maker
Spouse's Father: Benjamin Darby - Farmer
Reference Number: DRO 34
Archive Roll: M116

Both were widowed and give address as Gt Hampton Street.

Witnesses look like Thomas Chambers and Mary Wall.

Jane

Jane Report 10 Jun 2014 08:44

Please can someone see if they can find Giles abel on the 1841/51 census for Birmingham.

All I know about hims is that is that he was born about 1796 in Birmingham His parents were John Abel b 1764 and Sarah b 1769 .

I believe Giles died in 1851.

There is a possible marriage in Birmingham 1842 but I do not know who too.

Thanks for your help

Jane


Thanks for your help