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Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jul 2014 09:23

HELP
For some years in been researching my family with much success but I'm stuck with my great uncle. I did ask for help on here a few years ago which came to nothing so I thought I'd now try again. This is what I have.....
Walter Charlie Stark,born 3-11-1861, Stratford, Essex
He IS on census 1891 and 1901 living with his family.
I have found railway employee records for him on the Chatham/Dover railway.
He married Caroline Jane Wright on 29-4-1886 in Kempley,Gloucestershire which is strange as neither bride or groom has any obvious connection to that area and that is the last trace of them!
Any help would be appreciated
Kevin

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 12 Jul 2014 09:26

Is this the family on the 1881?


1881 England Census about Walter Charlie Stark
Name: Walter Charlie Stark
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Walter Stark
Mother: Sarah Stark
Gender: Male
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 3 St Georges Rd

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 74a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 654
Folio: 5
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Stark 48
Sarah Stark 40
Walter Charlie Stark 19
Jesse Ainsworth Stark 13
Charles John Stark 10
Margeret Jean Stark 3
George Henry Hewitt 19

Not with mum and dad on the 1891


1891 England Census about Walter Stark
Name: Walter Stark
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Stark
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 426
Folio: 74
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Stark 57 Born Scotland
Sarah Stark 50
Charles John Stark 20
Margaret Jean Stark 13

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jul 2014 09:28

Yes Mel. That's him. K

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 12 Jul 2014 09:37

Can't find him on the 1901 census yet.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 12 Jul 2014 09:38

Did you know his mothers maiden name was Ainsworth.

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jul 2014 09:42

Yes melt,I have all that. I literally have hundreds of bmd certificates all confirmed and all his siblings etc....I just can't find Walter and Caroline after their marriage in 1886
K

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 12 Jul 2014 09:43


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Walter Charlie Stark
Name: Walter Charlie Stark
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Newent
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 459
Records on Page:
Name
Caroline Jane Wright
Walter Charlie Stark

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 12 Jul 2014 09:44

Where did Caroline come from please?

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jul 2014 09:47

Caroline Jane Wright born 1863 lambeth...parents were charles and Caroline

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jul 2014 09:51

For background info:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1275253

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jul 2014 09:57

Sorry,correction...Caroline dob was 1862

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 12 Jul 2014 10:06

Hmm well if Marie can't find them I don't think I have much chance.........

Read the other thread Marie.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 12 Jul 2014 10:12

Do you knw if they had any children please?

There is a Mrs Walter Stark on a passenger list in 1902 with son Richard 4 years old.

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jul 2014 10:20

Mel, I have nothing after marriage. Where was the passenger heading for?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 12 Jul 2014 10:21


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Mr Walter Stark
Name: Mr Walter Stark
Gender: Male
Departure Date: 30 Jul 1891
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Furnessia
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Furnessia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Master: Harris

This one has a wife with him nder the name of Mrs Walter stark and he is a Resturanteur

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jul 2014 10:26

Not too sure about that Mel, there are people who are far better than me at finding census fugitives!
EDIT: Refers to the comment about me not finding them, not the record Mel has posted above!

Kevin, is this the railway employment record you refer to?

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956
Name: Walter Stark
Residence Date: 15 Jan 1862
Station: Battersea
Company: London, Chatham and Dover (East Kent)
Description: Register of staff at Longhedge works and outstations 1864 - 1918

This one relates to the father Walter born 1833. If you read the image the date of appointment was 1862 and this Walter Stark left when he retired in 1882.

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jul 2014 10:26

My Walter was a fireman (coalman) on the railways,would be a big leap in proffession tho not impossible.

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jul 2014 10:29

Yes Walters father also called Walter also worker for the same rail company as a driver and was indeed born in 1833

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jul 2014 10:31

There are no entries on this record after 1881 which seems to tie in with the 1882 retirement I mentioned above so suggests the record again relates to the father:

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956
Name: Walter Stark
Residence Date: 18 Oct 1877
Company: London, Chatham and Dover (East Kent)
Description: Register of staff at Longhedge works and outstations 1860 - 1881

Kevin, could you point us in the direction of the records that relate to Walter Charles?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jul 2014 10:33

Got him - he's just W C

UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956
Name: W C Stark
Residence Date: 16 Aug 1888
Company: London, Chatham and Dover (East Kent)
Description: Register of injuries to workmen 1880 - 1891

Although it doesn't sound as though he was seriously hurt maybe it put him off a life on the railways as can't see him after this.