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Hi,Everybody,yet again.I think I have to assume from the lack of response that,like me,you have all hit the same "brick wall"and can not find any definite proof of parents of Joseph Liddle/Little,b.c.1810.I have been told they could be a John and Sarah Little, but not totally convinced.All the same I only have respect for all you researchers,and thank you very much.
Regards,Terry L.

Yes this is my G.G.Grandfather and his family.I've trawled thro'100's if not 1000's of Bishops transcripts but never found any proof of Joseph's parents.I can't imagine that Durham Archives will even help me.???As I say,maybe a lost cause.?

Regards,Terry L.

For our ref, this is the 1841 which Terry mentions, but is another Ancestry mistranscription.
The image shows, in the same household, Joseph's wife Eleanor (25), Margaret (8), Elizabeth (6), Christopher (4), and Robert (2). All born Co. Durham.:



1841 England Census about Joseph Little
Name: Joseph Little
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew Auckland
Hundred: Darlington (North West Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: Wham
Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 307
Book: 15
Folio: 25
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Little 30

Once again,you guys,absolutely brilliant.Thanks so much.A leg of my family I thought
I'd lost altogether.My biggest"brick wall" is the fact I can't find the Parents of Joseph Liddle,(recorded as Little in 1841 Census at Wham,Co.Durham).Maybe its a lost cause? Once again,massive thanks to all you researchers.

Best wishes,Terry L.

1920 United States Federal Census
about Valena Blaney




Name:
Valena Blaney

Age:
40

Birth Year:
abt 1880

Birthplace:
Pennsylvania

Home in 1920:
Lakewood Ward 3, Cuyahoga, Ohio

Street:
Marlo Avenue

Race:
White

Gender:
Female

Relation to Head of House:
Wife

Marital Status:
Married

Spouse's Name:
Charles O Blaney

Father's Birthplace:
England

Mother's Birthplace:
England
Charles O Blaney 42
Valena Blaney 40
Lois E Blaney 20
Valena M Blaney 18
Glenn O Blaney 12




1930 United States Federal Census
about Vellena Blaney

Name:
Vellena Blaney

Gender:
Female

Birth Year:
abt 1880

Birthplace:
Pennsylvania

Race:
White

Home in 1930:
Detroit, Wayne, Michigan

Marital Status:
Married

Relation to Head of House:
Wife

Spouse's Name:
Charles O Blaney

Father's Birthplace:
England

Mother's Birthplace:
England

Charles O Blaney 53
Vellena Blaney 50


How many more ways can her name be spelled?!

I see the Findagrave record of Ellen's death lists some of her children:

Vellona Mensforth Blaney (1880 - 1935)* <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Edith Mensforth Burger (1882 - 1934)*
Lily Mensforth Kirkham (1884 - 1954)*
Elizabeth Mensforth Kuntz (1886 - ____)*
Arthur Henry Mensforth (1888 - 1945)*

*Calculated relationship



And when you click on Vellona's name, it says she was born Pittsburgh, Nov 29, 1880.
So presumably she's the little Eleanor of UK 1881.

Also 1910, which hasn't been posted yet:


1910 United States Federal Census
about Ellen Mensforth

Name:
Ellen Mensforth
[Helen Mensforth]

Age in 1910:
51

Birth Year:
abt 1859

Birthplace:
England

Home in 1910:
Cleveland Ward 20, Cuyahoga, Ohio

Race:
White

Gender:
Female

Immigration Year:
1882 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Relation to Head of House:
Wife

Marital Status:
Married

Spouse's Name:
John Mensforth

Father's Birthplace:
England

Mother's Birthplace:
England

John Mensforth 51
Ellen Mensforth 51
Viola Mensforth 20

Here's Ellen in 1880 - but it's another Ancestry mistranscription.
Husband John is also listed on the image, and they seem to be living with her parents Thomas and Elizabeth and the rest of her siblings, as in the 1880 posted on page 1 of this thread.
John is listed as son-in-law, and Ellen is listed as daughter.

1880 United States Federal Census
about Ellen Mansforth

Name:
Ellen Mansforth
Age:
21

Birth Year:
abt 1859

Birthplace:
England

Home in 1880:
Steubenville, Jefferson, Ohio

Race:
White

Gender:
Female

Marital Status:
Married

Father's Birthplace:
England

Mother's Birthplace:
England

Ellen Mansforth 21
John T. Mansforth 2
Valina Mansforth 7m



Is Valina (born Pennsylvania) the same person as Eleanor born Pittsburgh?

So they travelled back to England 1880 or 1881.

I have found the return voyage to the US.
Not 1885 but 1888
The family arrived in NY on 18 Nov 1888, aboard The City Of New York from Liverpool.
Their destination was Pennsylvania.
However, Ellen/Eleanor ( Allison) is not listed with the family?

!) John Mansforth age 30
2 Lellie ( Eleanor?) Mansforth age 10
3) Edith Mansforth age 8
4) Lily Mansforth age 4

Ha, ha! I like it!




Can't see any sign of Eleanor/Ellen's daughter Eleanor apart from 1881 UK census, which says she was born 1880 in Pittsburgh.
The family travelled to Pennsylvania in 1879, but I don't see any sign of them returning to UK before 1881.
The 1900 US census says they immigrated in 1885, but I don't see a record of that voyage either.

Well Done ArgyllGran
Findagrave for Ellen Mensforth M.S Allison
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=109942129&ref=acom

Look at the mistranscription for her mother's name! LOL

Arthur's wife:


Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-2007 about Lillian M Mensforth
Name: Lillian M Mensforth
Birth Date: 1889
Gender: Female
Race: White
Residence Place: Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States
Death Date: 18 Feb 1967
Hospital of Death: Fairview General Hospital
Death Place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
Certificate: 09668
Age at Death: 78
Certifier: Physician
Autopsy: No Autopsy performed
Marital Status: Widowed
Census Tract: 0905


Arthur's son & wife:


1940 United States Federal Census about Sumner Mensforth
Name: Sumner Mensforth
Respondent: Yes
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1916
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Ohio
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Map of Home in 1940: View map
Street: East 170th Street
House Number: 1177
Inferred Residence in 1935: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 7A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 144
Occupation: Displayman
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 25
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 48
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1100
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sumner Mensforth 24
Marion Mensforth 22



Cuyahoga County, Ohio, Marriage Records and Indexes, 1810-1973 about Sumner Mensforth
Name: Sumner Mensforth
Marriage Date: 18 Jan 1940
Form Type: Marriage
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1915
Birth Place: East Liverpool, Ohio
Father's Name: Arthur
Mother's name: Lillian Stoddard
Spouse's Name: Marion Papke
Spouse's Age: 22
Spouse's Birth Year: abt 1918
Spouse Father's Name: Arthur
Spouse Mother's Name: Helen Fournier



U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 about Sumner A Mensforth
Name: Sumner A Mensforth
Birth Year: 1914
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Ohio
State of Residence: Ohio
County or City: Cuyahoga
Enlistment Date: 11 Jul 1942
Enlistment State: Ohio
Enlistment City: Cleveland
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Salespersons
Marital Status: Married
Height: 67
Weight: 172



Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-2007 about Sumner A Mensforth
Name: Sumner A Mensforth
Birth Date: 1915
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence Place: Euclid, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States
Death Date: 9 Mar 1969
Hospital of Death: Euclid General Hospital
Death Place: Euclid, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
Certificate: 026115
Age at Death: 54
Certifier: Physician
Autopsy: Yes, not used for certification
Marital Status: Married
Census Tract: 0703

Eleanor's son Arthur:


U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Arthur Henry Mensforth
Name: Arthur Henry Mensforth
County: Columbiana
State: Ohio
Birthplace: Durham,England
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1888
Race: Caucasian (White)
Draft Board: 1
Occupation: Physical Director, Board of Education, East Liverpool
Has wife and three children.



1920 United States Federal Census about Arther H M?Nsforth
Name: Arther H M?Nsforth
[Arther H Mensforth]
[Arther H Monsforth]
[Luther H Mansforth]
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1889
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: East Liverpool Ward 4, Columbiana, Ohio
Street: Chestnut St
House Number: 901
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lillian M?Nsforth
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: Saleman
Industry: Gas Co
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Arther H M?Nsforth 31
Lillian M?Nsforth 30
Sumner M?Nsforth 5
Eleanora M?Nsforth 2
[2 11/12]
Harry Stoddard 61
[67] - father-in-law



1930 United States Federal Census about Arthur H Mensforth
Name: Arthur H Mensforth
[Arthur Meusforth]
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1889
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: East Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Map of Home: View map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1910
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Lillian M Mensforth
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur H Mensforth 41
Lillian M Mensforth 41
Summer A Mensforth 15
Eleanor A Mensforth 13




1940 United States Federal Census about Arthour Mausforth
Name: Arthour Mausforth
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Divorced
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Home in 1940: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Map of Home in 1940: View map
Street: Carnegie Avenue
Inferred Residence in 1935: Arkansas, Arkansas
Residence in 1935: Arkansas, Arkansas
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 8B
Occupation: Caretaker
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: College, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1000
Income Other Sources: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Adain Rewitzer 32
Pauline Rewitzer 29
Nancy Rewitzer 2
Robert Rewitzer 1
Arthour Mausforth 51


U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Arthur Henry Mensforth
Name: Arthur Henry Mensforth
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1888
Birth Place: New Sheldon, England
Residence: East Liverpool, Ohio, USA
Race: White
Unemployed



Texas, Death Certificates, 1903–1982 about Arthur Mensforth
Name: Arthur Mensforth
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1888
Birth Place: England
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence: Texarkana, Bowie, Texas
Father: John Mensforth
Mother: Ellen Allison
Age at Death: 56
Death Date: 10 Feb 1945
Death Place: Texarkana, Bowie, Texas, USA

????


Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-2007 about Ellen Mensforth
Name: Ellen Mensforth
Death Date: 14 Jan 1931
Death Place: Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 about Ellen Mensforth
Name: Ellen Mensforth
Gender: Female
Residence Year: 1906
Residence Place: East Liverpool, Ohio, USA
Spouse: John Mensforth
Publication Title: East Liverpool, Ohio, City Directory, 1906




U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 about Ellen Mansforth
Name: Ellen Mansforth
Gender: Female
Residence Year: 1915
Street address: 1050 Vine
Residence Place: East Liverpool, Ohio, USA
Spouse: John Mansforth
Publication Title: East Liverpool, Ohio, City Directory, 1915

1900 United States Federal Census about Ellen Mensforth
Name: Ellen Mensforth
Age: 40
Birth Date: Mar 1860
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Wellsville, Columbiana, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1885
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: John Mensforth
Marriage Year: 1877
Years Married: 23
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 6
Mother: How many children: 7
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mensforth 41
Ellen Mensforth 40
Edith Mensforth 17
Lillie Mensforth 16
Lizzie Mensforth 14
Arthur Mensforth 11
Violet Mensforth 10




1920 United States Federal Census about Ellen Mensforth
Name: Ellen Mensforth
Age: 60
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Steubenville Ward 4, Jefferson, Ohio
Street: Sycamore Street
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1887
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: John Mensforth
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Year of Naturalization: 1887
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mensforth 62 - cementer
Ellen Mensforth 60

A tree on Ancestry says this is the death of Eleanor's son John:

Deaths Jun 1888 (>99%)
MENSFORTH John Thomas 10 Auckland 10a 106

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1948 about Jno Thos Mensforth
Name: Jno Thos Mensforth
Gender: Male
Birthdate: abt 1879
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 2 Jul 1879
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age on Arrival: 0
Ship: Ohio

Travelling with parents John Mensforth, 21, labourer, and Ellen Monsforth, 20

Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)
Allison Ellen Auckland 10a 247
MENSFORTH John Auckland 10a 247


1881 England Census about Eleoner Mensforth
Name: Eleoner Mensforth
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: John Mensforth
Gender: Female
Where born: Escomb, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Shildon
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: - (Albert Street) Or Sunnydale
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4919
Folio: 17
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mensforth 23
Eleoner Mensforth 22
John T. Mensforth 3 - b. Shildon, Durham
Eleoner Mensforth 1 - born Pittsburgh, USA

1861 England Census about Elenor Allison
Name: Elenor Allison
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Allison
Mother's name: Elizabeth Allison
Gender: Female
Where born: Escombe, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Escombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Escombe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Piece: 3707
Folio: 34
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Allison 28
Elizabeth Allison 25
Elenor Allison 2
James Allison 7/12


I don't see an Eleanor or Elenor born in 1859 in escomb.
I wonder if this is her?

Births Mar 1859 (>99%)
ALLISON Ellen Auckland 10a 148