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Yes I can see now that the marriage to James Kennett Piggott was in 1888, Holborn which spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex; ;-)

Hi Lucy,
Thank you so much for contacting me about Alice Piggott. Sadly, I don't see how it could be my Alice as mine was married to James Piggott and not Henry, otherwise it would have been quite feasible. The good thing is, it is probably one more Alice E. Piggott to eliminate!
Thank you so much again for taking the trouble to contact me.
Regards June
:-)

Forgot to mention my GG Grandmother was a bit of a character too an worked as a ladies maid then a wet nurse in the London area.

Henry Piggott's parents came to Sydenham in about 1847 and by 1861 (when Henry was 7) they were at 6 Hamburgh Place. Henry was at no.2 in 1891, but by 1894 he was at no.1. He died there in 1926 and Alice was sill at number up until at least 1939 I believe. I am not sure if she ever married Henry.

1 Hamburgh Place where Alice E Piggott lived with my GG Grandmother was linked to a Methodist church in Sydenham and I believe that single Mothers or those without financial means lived. As well as my GG Mothers child Arthur Frank Stark there were some other children living there.
By the 1901 census I think my GGranmother had moved but Alice was still living there as a wet nurse I am led to believe. May be the AlicecE Piggott you are looking for so have sent a PM. :-)

My great Grandmother Delphine used to live with an Alice E Piggott but I believe Alice was married to Henry Piggott in 1900. They lived at 1 Hamburgh Place, Sydenham. Not sure if the same lady you are looking for who may have remarried. She is a witness on my GG mothers wedding certificate along with a D Causley.

Hi Gritty,
Thank you so much for the link, I had not seen it before. The description of the voyage is really fascinating.Regards Quester :-)

Alexander may have been sent to Canada in 1902 from a Barnardo Home. There is an Alexander Piggott mentioned in the July 17 1902 - SS New England shipping list.

This site may help:
http://canadianbritishhomechildren.weebly.com/apps/search?q=piggott

It also includes a description of the voyage.

Hi June,

My Great Uncles were British Home children too- sent to Canada in 1904. A few monthsbefore they went they had been sent to Birmingham Middlemore Home. I went to Birmingham central library and they had a lot of information from the Middlemore home including why their parents could no longer care for them and yearly assessments of the children in their new homes. They were quite detailed.

I just wondered if Alex had been sent from such a home and if his records (perhaps at a London central library?) would give you further information?

Hi Rootgatherer & Shirley~I'm getting the hang of it,
Wow! You have done your research! I knew about the arrival of Alex Piggott in Canada in 1907, his regiment - he was in the Canadian Expeditionary Force, his school and his marriage. He also came back to England in 1911- 1911 Census of Canada
Name: Alexander Piggott
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 21
Relation to Head of House: Domestic
Immigration Year: 1902
Tribal: English
Province: Saskatchewan
District: Regina
District Number: 214
Sub-District Number: 12
Census Year: 1911
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Aston 32
Margaret Aston 31
and also 1919 Date of Arrival: 6 Mar 1919
Vessel: Grampian
Port of Arrival: St.John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland. Plus a trip to USA with a friend presumably.
Arrival Date: 3 Nov 1928
Port of Arrival: Havre, Montana, United States
Accompanied by: Percy Purdy. After that I have lost him. No sign of Alice with him either.
I had not considered that James might have married Rose, because he knew he was dying, what a valid observation, I think it is probably correct. So now Alice could have been alive after that date after all.
Alex was sent to Canada as a British Home child, as once Alice had left James, James's mother was getting a bit to old to handle him I think. I shall have to investigate the Alice's on the electoral rolls a bit further - not sure how though.It is tantalising about the Claude Piggott in Willesden it cannot be my Claude because he died in 1927, but I think the family lived around Harrow & Wealdstone which is quite close to Willesden, so maybe there is a connection there.
This is plenty for me to think about - thank you.

:-) :-) :-)

As she left her hubby it's possible she moved away from Islington

So maybe

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Alice E Piggott
Name: Alice E Piggott
Birth Date: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Jun 1962
Age at Death: 93
Registration district: Ilford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 268

Name: Claude James Kennett Piggott
Probate Date: 24 Jun 1927
Death Date: 17 May 1927
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London, England


Of 47 Canford Road, West Side. Clapham Common

Admin to Nellie Louisa Piggott widow and Arthur Ernest Foley accountants
Effects £2547.6 s

So was still a young man

Name: Claude J K Piggott
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of Registration: Jun 1927
Age at Death: 38
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1d
Page: 406



Name: Claude J K Piggott
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: St Pancras
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 13
Records on Page:
Name

Nellie L Brown
Claude J K Piggott

There this one too but she has an Ernest J Piggott with

Name: Alice E Piggott
Year: 1961
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington North
Street address: 102 Bruce Glazier house


Same address in 1959

Stil with Ernest J in 1964

So doesn't seem to be your Alice

There this Alice but she is with an Ellen Adelaide and a George Henry

Name: Alice Piggott
Year: 1930
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington South and West
Street address: 98 Giffohd Street
She is at various addresses on the later roll but always with Ellen and George

Could George be her son ?

There is an Alice E Piggot on the London ERs until the 1960s in Islington.

Sorry, I have to go out so can't follow this up until later.

Name: Rose Barnes
Spouse Surname: Piggott
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1944
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1132


Have you considered that perhaps James knew he didn't have long to live when he married Rose? Perhaps Alice was still alive when James died.

Name: James K Piggott
Birth Date: abt 1861
Date of Registration: Dec 1944
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 483

Looks like Alexander wasn't in touch with his mother as he names brother Claude in Battersea as his NOK here

Name: Alexander Piggott
Residence: Robsart, Saskatchewan
Birth Date: 27 Mar 1890
Birth Location: London, England
Relative: Claud Piggott
Relationship: Brother
Regiment Number: 1250706

Dated 22 December 1916




Name: Alex Piggott
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Date of Arrival: 3 Mar 1907
Vessel: Dominion
Search Ship Database: View the 'Dominion' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia and Portland, Maine
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-501


No mention of his mother here either


Name: Alec Piggott
Age: 9
Birth Date: 27 Mar 1890
School: Camden Street School
Borough: Camden
Admission Date: 28 Aug 1899
Parent: James
Notes: Camden Street School (0247) opened 1874, renamed King Street School in 1919. Became Richard Cobden School in 1937
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV02/CAM/AD/001


So Alexander returned from Canada and married in London.


Name: Alexander Piggott
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Age: 27
Spouse: Amy Cackett
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Sep 1918
Parish: St Matthew, City Road
Borough: Islington
Father Name: James Piggott
Spouse Father: William Cackett
Register Type: Parish Register

Many thanks again Gypsy for your help. :-)
Regards June

Yes, hopefully it will (maybe) give a clue at least.
I did try to look for a death of an Alice Emily (no surname) but didn't find anything conclusive. I thought if you found one, maybe just before James Piggott married for the second time, you could look to eliminate them as not her rather than prove it was her if that makes sense!

Ok, thank you for your help. I have ordered James & Rose's marriage certificate and I expect to receive it about 6th September. Maybe there will be some clues there. I suppose that is all that can be done for now, do you think?
Best Wishes from June

Hi, Yes I assumed it was Sydney. I found the same info. I think patchem is probably right and that she took the name of someone else without marrying him.