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Alice Emily Piggott nee Lowe

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June

June Report 30 Aug 2014 19:43

Hi Gypsy,
Yes, In 1901 my grandfather Sidney Lowe is living at 10 Adelaide Square, Islington with Alice's parents John & Ann Lowe and their children. Sidney thought John & Ann were his parents for a long time , but they were of course his grandparents.( Name spelt Sydney on this census. RG13/187)
In 1911 Sidney is with his wife another Alice, nee Moore and their son Sidney William in Basingstoke. It must have been a temporary residence because they soon went back to Islington to have three more children. The Lowe's had always lived in Islington. Alice Emily is not residing with them. Regards June

Gypsy

Gypsy Report 30 Aug 2014 17:41

So have you found your grandfather in 1901/1911? If he isn't James' son?

June

June Report 30 Aug 2014 17:28

Hi,
Thank you Gypsy and Patchem for your quick responses. A good point about James's marriage, I will send for the marriage certificate. Yes, I have considered that she possibly took someone else's surname, could be tricky finding her if so. Alice left James around 1892 I think. She was certainly a bit of a character because she had my grandfather illegitimately in 1886 when she was a young single maid ( father not named on birth certificate) married James in 1888 but was already 5 months pregnant with Claude at the time of her marriage to James. :-|

patchem

patchem Report 30 Aug 2014 16:51

Welcome to the boards, June.

As you appear to have done extensive checks, I think that most people will assume that she is going to be very difficult to find.

Have you considered that she is living with someone and taken their surname without marrying them? Probably someone called Smith (!)

If James did not marry again until 1944, then possibly he knew that she was still alive and did not want to commit bigamy.

What family history was passed down to you about her from your grandparents?

Thank-you

Gypsy

Gypsy Report 30 Aug 2014 16:46

When James married Rose, what was his marital status?

June

June Report 30 Aug 2014 15:33

Hi, I have been trying to locate my gt. grandmother born 17 June 1868, Queen's Head Street, Islington, Middx. on the 1901 & 1911 census to no avail. Alice Emily Lowe married a man called James Kennett Piggott on February 26th 1888 at St. James Pentonville in the Parish of Clerkenwell. James was a “Riding Master” and the son of Thomas Piggott a “Gentleman” and Jane Kennett.
Alice and James had two children, Claude born 3 June 1888 and Alexander born 27 March 1890. At the time of Claude’s birth they were all living at 30 Crawford Street, Marylebone, London. When Alexander was born they were living at 57 Cross Street, Islington. By the time of the 1891 (RG12/107) census, husband James however, is living with his mother Jane and Claude age 3 in Hampstead, while Alice is living in Islington, as head of the household and living on her own means with Alexander. (RG12/161) By 1901 James is living with a woman called Rose Barnes, they did not marry until 1944 in Hendon Middx. and he has two more children, Cecil b 21 June 1899 & Leonard ca 1900, while Alexander & Claude are both living with Jane, James mother. Alexander & Claude later married, but I have not found any offspring for either of them.((Alexander went to Canada)
But where is Alice? I have checked passenger lists, I cannot see her on the 1901 census, I have not found a death for her and I have not found another marriage. There is a marriage for an Alice Emily Piggott on Free bmd’s to a Thomas Henry Whitehouse, but it is not the correct one as the birth date and place do not tally with my Alice. I would dearly love to find out what happened to Alice if anyone can help. Alice is not with her parents in Islington (John & Ann Lowe) in 1901 or 1911
Regards June