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Dea

Dea Report 23 Sep 2014 15:34

So... - for reference - this would be him in 1901:


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Lower Wood Street, Woolwich, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alfred Ritchie Head Married Male 28 1873 Machine Hand (R Arsenl) Scotland
Transcription
Jessie Ritchie Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Brighton, Sussex, England
Transcription
Alfred James Son Single Male 8 1893 - Woolwich, Kent, England

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Sep 2014 15:32

If he was born 1892, he couldn't have married much before 1908

Who was the son you refer to?

Where did he marry?

Which country's marriage certs record the birthplace of the fathers of the couple marrying?

ADDED

Birthplaces are not on English marriage certs, which is where both Alfreds married

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Sep 2014 15:30

Ah, this is the marriage (no middle name for him)

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Alfred Ritchie - a labourer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 21
Spouse: Jessie Chambers
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Feb 1892
Parish: Holy Trinity, Woolwich
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: James Ritchie - a slater
Register Type: Parish Register

Neither previously married. Both give address as 41 Rope Yard Rails.

Jessie's father unknown as she is apparently an orphan.

Witnesses: William Henry Casser? and Frederick Thomas Street.

So there's no way an 1881 birth is him :-)

safc

safc Report 23 Sep 2014 15:30

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Lower Wood Street, Woolwich, London, England
Print transcription View image
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alfred Ritchie Head Married Male 28 1873 Machine Hand (R Arsenl) Scotland
Transcription
Jessie Ritchie Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Brighton, Sussex, England
Transcription
Alfred James Son Single Male 8 1893 - Woolwich, Kent, England

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Sep 2014 15:29

Hello dogsB - he claims to be born 1892 on his marriage, have I read that right?

But you're claiming an 1881 birth as his? Hmmm

What was his occupation, and his father's name and occupation on his marriage?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Sep 2014 15:29

Where was he living when he went for cigs, and what year was that?

As his wife re-married she would have had to have him declared legally dead, which cannot be done until a person has been missing for seven years

Unless, of course, she lied on the second marriage cert, or there is a death cert for him

When was he born?

WHERE did he marry?

dogsB

dogsB Report 23 Sep 2014 15:16

Hi thank you loads for help, found button my threads lol.
Have everything on his life, but death as he went out to get cigarettes, never returned, his wife remarried after 1916. Haven't found him in 1911 census. On his son's wedding says born Scotland & on his wedding 1892, but given up on them after massive search. Will keep trying to find death for a while longer. Still not sure if fib about Scottish birth, but did find possible match in Scotland 1881 and still keeping as mine.
Shame not mine his wife was Jessie chambers

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 22 Sep 2014 18:28

Is this him?

Name: Alfred James Ritchie
Record Type: Burial
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Death Date: abt 1918
Burial Date: 2 Nov 1918
Burial Place: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Comments: Reused graves at Norwood; see the database description for a link for more information.

Abode was 108 Herne Hill

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Sep 2014 18:27

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Alfred James Ritchie Name:Alfred James Ritchie
Probate Date:3 Jan 1919
Death Date:28 Oct 1918
Death Place:Middlesex, England
Registry:London, England

Of 5 Pemberton Row, Gough Square, Middlesex and of 108 Herne Hill, Surrey. Died at Herne Hill.

To Edith Ritchie......widow.

Effects: £11497 11s 2d

Let us know if you need any other information regarding this family.

There is a probate for son Geoffrey Oscar Ritchie if you don't already have it.

Prickles.


dogsB

dogsB Report 22 Sep 2014 18:22

Would any lovely person be able to check record of death of Alfred james Ritchie 1918-19 Middlesex England, as my ancestry memship has run out, but will be getting new one at Christmas.
Many thanks