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Barbara
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26 Sep 2014 18:57 |
Please can anyone help. Joseph Ambrose Dean born 1891 in Leeds. I know all about his family in England but cannot access the following'
•U.S., Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1795-1972 (World Archives Project) •U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
If it is possible for anyone with world wide membership It would really be appreciated to find out when and if he had any family in the US.
Thank you Barbara
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26 Sep 2014 19:00 |
Hi
U.S., Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1795-1972 (World Archives Project)
Name:Joseph Ambrose Dean
Age:27
Birth Date:1 Jun 1891
Birth Location:Leeds, England
Issue Date:3 Jul 1918
State:Virginia
Locality, Court: Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria, District Court
Record Type:Petition for Naturalization -------------------
U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name:Joseph Ambrose Dean
Birth Date:1 Jun 1891
Birth Place:Leeds, England
Residence:Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
I can email you the record if you PM me your email address
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Gritty
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26 Sep 2014 19:02 |
Have pm'd WWII registration- born June first 1891
Also pm'd WW1 registration below- born June first 1891
Name: Joseph A Last name Dean Birth year 1891 Birth date 01 Jun 1891 Birth place Leeds,Yorkshire,England Residence Philadelphia City no 27 State Pennsylvania Citizenship country Great Britain Registration year 1917 NARA series M1509 Record set World War I Draft Registration Cards
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Barbara
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26 Sep 2014 19:12 |
Thank you both so much for the information Kinds regards Barbara
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JoonieCloonie
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26 Sep 2014 19:46 |
have you found him in US censuses at all?
this seems to be him in 1920
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6Y2-N82
Name: Joseph Dean Event Type: Census Event Year: 1920 Event Place: Philadelphia Ward 7, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States Gender: Male Age: 28 Marital Status: Single Race: White Race (Original): White Can Read: Yes Can Write: Yes Relationship to Head of Household: Boarder Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Boarder Birth Year (Estimated): 1892 Birthplace: England Immigration Year: 1912 Father's Birthplace: Ireland Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
so this is his immigration record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/23Q1-C5H image https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21580-47040-80?cc=1921481 (edit, accidentally posted the same link twice) naming his father in Leeds ... destined to Phila and occupation forgeman?
but I can't see a later census or death record, at familysearch
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AnnCardiff
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26 Sep 2014 19:49 |
Name: Joseph Ambrose Dean Event Type: Draft Registration Event Date: 1942 Event Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States Gender: Male Birth Date: 01 Jun 1891 Affiliate ARC Identifier: 563728 Affiliate Publication Title: World War II Draft Cards (4th Registration) for the State of Pennsylvania , Affiliate Publication Number: M1951 , GS Film Number: 2283479 , Digital Folder Number: 004128427 , Image Number: 03082
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AnnCardiff
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26 Sep 2014 19:51 |
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Name: Joseph Dean Event Type: Census Event Year: 1920 Event Place: Philadelphia Ward 7, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States Gender: Male Age: 28 Marital Status: Single Race: White Race (Original): White Can Read: Yes Can Write: Yes Relationship to Head of Household: Boarder Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Boarder Birth Year (Estimated): 1892 Birthplace: England Immigration Year: 1912 Father's Birthplace: Ireland Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Chals Tasker Head M 49 Pennsylvania Mary Tasker Wife F 40 Ireland Frank Tasker Son M 18 Pennsylvania Mary Perry Daughter F 17 Pennsylvania Cathrine Tasker Daughter F 10 Pennsylvania Michael Tasker Son M 8 Pennsylvania Veronica Tasker Daughter F 4 Pennsylvania Thomas Tasker Son M 0 Pennsylvania Cathrine Murphy Boarder F 38 Ireland Joseph Dean Boarder M 28 England District: 164 , Sheet Number and Letter: 5A , Household ID: 94 , Line Number: 10 , Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) , Affiliate Publication Number: T625 , GS Film number: 1821618 , Digital Folder Number: 004384895 , Image Number: 00998
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JoonieCloonie
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26 Sep 2014 20:19 |
yes, I posted that 1920 census above (I didn't post all the unrelated people in the household, but I gave the link)
and Gritty has sent Barbara both the WWI and the WWII draft registration cards
Ann ... have you had any more luck then me finding Joseph in 1930 or 1940??
he had to be there, one would think, since he registered for the draft in 1942!
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Barbara
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26 Sep 2014 20:46 |
Thank you all for the info.
Ann that census has thrown up something interesting. Catherine Murphy born in Ireland. Joseph's Mother was originally a Catherine Murphy from Ireland so I am now wondering if the one in the US is a relation.
Thanks again to you all you amaze me how quickly you find the information Kinds regards Barbara
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Barbara
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26 Sep 2014 20:54 |
Please could I ask another favour. The 1920 US census states that Mary Tasker was born in Ireland. I would like to know if there is a marriage with her Maiden name.
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AnnCardiff
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26 Sep 2014 21:39 |
well JC - good job I posted all the "unrelated" people then ;-)
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AnnCardiff
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26 Sep 2014 21:41 |
Name: Charles Tasker Event Type: Census Event Year: 1880 Event Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States Gender: Male Age: 9 Marital Status: Single Race: White Race (Original): W Occupation: At School Relationship to Head of Household: Son Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Son Birth Year (Estimated): 1871 Birthplace: Pennsylvania, United States Father's Birthplace: Ireland Mother's Birthplace: Ireland Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Affiliate Publication Number: T9 Affiliate Film Number: 1171 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Elizabeth Tasker Self F 30 Ireland Charles Tasker Son M 9 Pennsylvania, United States Elizabeth Tasker Daughter F 7 Pennsylvania, United States District: 153 , Sheet Number and Letter: 530B , GS Film Number: 1255171 , Digital Folder Number: 004244457 , Image Number: 00483
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AnnCardiff
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26 Sep 2014 21:42 |
Name: Frank Tasker Event Type: Birth Event Date: 01 Jan 1900 Event Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States Gender: Male Father's Name: Charles Tasker Mother's Name: Rosie Reference ID: bk 1900 p 18 , GS Film number: 1289339 , Digital Folder Number: 004183443 , Image Number: 00210
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AnnCardiff
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26 Sep 2014 21:44 |
sounds a possible?
Name: Charles R Tasker Spouse's Name: O'Brien Event Year: 1919 License Number: 407800 Image Number: 00014 , Digital Folder Number: 4141837
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JoonieCloonie
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26 Sep 2014 22:32 |
on the 1920 census, Charles Tasker born c1871 in Pennsylvania was married to Mary born c1880 in Ireland
so the marriage would have been in Pennsylvania ... she could have been a second wife, but she doesn't seem to be Rosie the mother of the Frank born in 1900 in PA
since there is a daugher Mary Perry aged 17 in the household, it does seem likely that Mary was the second wife of Charles, and Mary Perry is her daughter
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JV8F-8WG
Name: Tasker Spouse's Name: Mary Perry Event Year: 1909 License Number: 235950 Image Number: 00168 , Digital Folder Number: 4141908
So Mary Perry married Mr Tasker (no given name shown) 1909 Philadelphia ... this would be Charles Tasker's second marriage, to the Mary in the 1920 census
so all the children in 1920 but Frank are Mary's, from Charles Tasker's second marriage, which was in 1909 to Mary Perry
Frank Tasker is still with mother (stepmother) Mary in 1930:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHZR-2TY
they now have a widowed Kate McCarthy born c1855 (aged 75) in the Irish Free State as border in the household
but unless there is some family connection between Charles Tasker or his first wife Rosie or his second wife Mary Perry and your Joseph Ambrose Dean ........ :-)
as far as Catherine Murphy, it isn't an uncommon Irish name ... this one was 10 years older than Joseph ... born c1882 and immigrated to the US in 1902
she could have been a cousin on his mother's side perhaps but that would be about the closest possible relationship
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JoonieCloonie
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26 Sep 2014 23:06 |
Joseph's mother in the 1911 English census
Name: Catherine Dean Age in 1911: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Bax, Mayo, Ireland
do you know what 'Bax' is? that's what it looks like on the image
there were 5 Catherine Murphys aged 16-18 in county Mayo in the 1901 Irish census (plus 7 Kates and 3 Katies)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
1901-1903 there 3 Catherine Murphys and a few dozen Caths, Kaths, Katherines, Kates and Katies with ages showing born 1881-1883 who immigrated to the US almost all departing from Ireland
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/passenger-lists-leaving-uk-1890-1960
I'm curious about Bax :-)
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Gritty
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27 Sep 2014 07:28 |
Joonie- 'Bax' could possibly be a shortened 'Backs', which is a parish in County Mayo? As far as I can make out it includes Knockmore and Rathduff.
EDIT: The 1911 census states Catherine married in 1869. This looks like the marriage: Catherine Murphy married John Dean in Ireland 1869. There are two entries for them on RootsIreland, the second also gives mother's names:
04-Jan-1869 Parish / District: KILMOREMOY DISTRICT County: Co. Mayo Name: John Deane address: Ballina Occ: Servant, Age: over 21 Spouse: Kate Murphy address: Ballina Occ: SP, Age: over 21 Denomination: Roman Catholic Husband's Father: Pat Deane, Occ: Farmer Wife's father: Michael Murphy, Occ: Farmer Witnesses: John Nalley Catherine Lynskey Notes: MARRIED IN BALLINA CHURCH BY HENRY HEWSON C.C. COUPLE OR SPONSORS COULD NOT WRITE
04-Feb-1869 Parish / District: KILMOREMOY/BALLINA County: Co. Mayo Name: John Deane, Address: Ballina Spouse: Catherine Murphy, Address: Ballina Denomination: Roman Catholic Husband's Father: Patrick Deane Wife's Father: Michael Murphy Husband's Mother: Mary Deane Wife's Mother: Mary Lynskey Witnesses: John Malley Catherine Lynskey
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Sep 2014 07:51 |
1940 United States Federal Census (Ancestry) Name: Mary Tasker Respondent: Yes Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Gender: Female Race: White Birthplace: Irish Free State Marital Status: Widowed Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Map of Home in 1940: Street: South 26 Street Mary Tasker 63 Frank Tasker 37 Veronica Tasker 23 Thomas Tasker 21 Warren Mansur 56
Charles Tasker Birth: 1876 Death: 1927 Burial: Holy Cross Cemetery Yeadon Delaware County Pennsylvania, USA Plot: Section 7 Range 2
Mary Tasker Birth: 1879 Death: 1950 (if them!, above together, from below link)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
Chris :)
Frances Tasker Birth: 1902 Death: 1978 (other in same Cemetery)
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JoonieCloonie
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27 Sep 2014 08:01 |
yes, I posted the link to that 1930 census with Mary Tasker and stepson Frank :-)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHZR-2TY
but since we don't have much reason to think they are related ...
Backs makes sense. Someone in the household wrote the info on the census schedule but it's hard to say who since the signature itself on the form is an x.
edit ... 1930, 1940 ... :-) main thing is, Joseph was simply boarding with them in 1920 as far as we know
Catherine Murphy from the 1920 could be of interest but I can't find any Cath* Murphy in 1930 or 1940 who isn't either married or a widow
it might be worth checking possible passenger records that might match her to see whether any potentially useful info turns up ... I can't do that, no proper sub
I would still guess she was just another boarder though ...
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Sep 2014 08:03 |
Above is 1940.
Chris :)
Frank Tasker is still with mother (stepmother) Mary in 1930:
(took note you added above!)
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