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01 March 1918 - Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Exeter, Devon, England

Deaths.
Willey - At Highgate, January 27, Esther Handsford Willey, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Care, of St. Sidwell's, Exeter, and Kent Road London, aged 88.

Chris :)

edits

(that 1841 posted earlier, Mary Ceare, written by side looks below)

Post Boy 1) Carried mail 2) Guard who travelled on the mail coach 3) Outrider travelling with the coach or a Postillion

http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/p.html


(not sure if you have knowledge of Sisters of Esther)

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
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Bolt John William Islington 1b 245
Care Mary Ann Islington 1b 245


Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
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Care Harriett Islington 1b 246
Simmonds Stephen Islington 1b 246

(above are witnesses to each others Marriages)

bet their names have got added to the previous family listed


OR

they were missed off the census fro some reason.


I tried everything I know to find them, from soundex to surnames only to forenames only, even to birthplace only! ............. and also initials only in case they were in an institution



Good day Flip ............. I had a very good sleep, thank you!

I came looking before having breakfast, hoping you had managed to crack the mystery!



Chris :-)

Sorry folks, no luck either, was doing same as Flip, looking up Chalton Street 1871 this morning!.

Mystery...

Chris :)

Yes but where?? I can't find them either!

Good morning Sylvia, hope you had a nice sleep :-)

ADDED: had hoped to have got further whilst you slept, but no such luck

I searched a long time last night trying to find the family and Thomas Willey in 1871, without success


they've got to be somewhere!

PM received from Poppina thanking us for our efforts - it's best to post on here so others can see you've got the info though.

Maybe someone else can find Esther in 1871? I can't see her on ancestry and only have a temporary (the 1 month special offer) on FMP but am struggling with their search criteria!! Bring back the old site ;-)

The address given on 4 christenings in 1872 was 112 Chalton Street - have checked the address in 1871 but they were not there, and can't find them elsewhere.

Not having any luck in finding Esther Nobbin or Thomas (Willey) in 1871. Do you already have this census?

Plymouth Baptism Register Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) CLARA JANE
Last name WILLEY
Birth day 24
Birth month Jun
Birth Year 1850
Baptism day 17
Baptism month Nov
Baptism year 1850
Father's first name(s) Thomas (Shoemaker)
Mother's first name(s) Esther
Dedication St Andrew
Place PLYMOUTH: ST ANDREW'S
County Devon
Country England
Archive reference 358/14/b
Page 510
Record set Plymouth Baptism Register
(abode, Catherine Street)

Chris :)

edits (find of Flip earlier, FMP one)

Devon Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) Esther Handsford
Last name Caer
Baptism year 1830
Birth year 1830
Birth date 04 Jul 1830
Father's first name William
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name Mary
Baptism place Exeter, St Sidwell
Residence Longbrooke Street
County Devon

(Sister)
First name(s) Harriet
Last name Care
Baptism year 1836
Birth year 1836
Birth date 28 Feb 1836
Father's first name William
Father's occupation Post-boy
Mother's first name Mary
Baptism place Exeter, St Sidwell
Residence Behind The Church
County Devon



Burial Register summary
Nobbing Edward Benjamin
Burial date 24 March 1874
London Borough of Islington
Location Islington Cemetery (Islington)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch


Westminster Baptisms Transcription (Find my Past)
First name(s) EDWARD BENJAMIN
Last name NOBBIN
Birth year 1838
Birth day 23
Birth month Jan
Baptism year 1839
Baptism day 31
Baptism month Mar
Parish St Mary-le-Strand
Father's first name(s) Jonathan (Brass Finisher)
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
County Middlesex
Page 178
Record set Westminster Baptisms
(abode, 90 Drury Lane)

I've been looking for Thomas, but can't find him

:-D :-D :-D :-D



I'm going to bed ...................... see you later

Clara Jane Willey
Spouse: William Thomas Ward
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:4 Nov 1872
Parish:St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey
Borough:Southwark
Father Name:Thomas Willey (Boot & shoe maker)
Spouse Father:William Thomas Ward
Register Type:Parish Register

:-D You beat me to it!

That looks good for Clara, I was just looking for her to see what name she was under.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Clara Jane Willey
Spouse: William Thomas Ward
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Nov 1872
Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Willey <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Father: William Thomas Ward
Register Type: Parish Register

Father occupation:- Boot and Shoe Maker


It does not say that he is dead

and this looks like Clara living with ehr grandparents in 1871


1871 Census

Name: Clara Willie
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Peckham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 734
Folio: 111
Page Number: 14

Willm Care 75 b.ca 1796, Beaminster, Dorset, Tobacconist
Mary Care 70 b.ca 1801, Castle Cary, Somerset
Clara Willie 20 General Servant

Address:- 2 Park Road

??????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Clara Jane Willey

Name: Clara Jane Willey
Registration Year: 1850
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Plymouth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 9
Page: 364

Flip


I'd guess the name got changed along the line

I looked at the freebmd image of her marriage ........... and it is Welling

It is handwritten, and I wondered if there was a possibility of mis-transcription

Marriages Jun 1864 (>99%)

Nobbin Edward Benjamin Pancras 1b 67
Welling Esther Hansford Pancras 1b 67

I agree Sylvia, so either she had another husband in between or the name got changed a bit. I'd be inclined to believe the latter.

Flip


That 1851 census that you found fits with the 1861 that I found ................... with Clara as the daughter