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Good move rootgatherer

We just have to hope that Kaye absorbs the info, and follows the advice given about getting documents

Name: Sidney Edwin Wright
Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1896
Baptism Place: Islington, London, England
Church: St Paul Clerkenwell
Father: Charles James Wright
Mother: Emily Sophia Wright


Name: Emily Zillah Wright
Baptism Date: 18 Jul 1897, b. 14 Feb 1897
Baptism Place: Islington, London, England
Church: St Paul Clerkenwell
Father: Charles Wright
Mother: Emily Sophy Wright



Name: Emily Zillah Hughes
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1897
Date of Registration: Mar 1970
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 614

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 (Ancestry)
Name: Charles Richard Painter
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 May 1880 (Born Jan 29)
Father's Name: John Painter (Toy Maker)
Mother's name: Emma Painter
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St James the Great


Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
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Painter Charles Richard Holborn 1b 866


(Brother on 1901 posted earlier)

Chris :)

1881 (Find My Past)
John Painter Head Married Male 60 1821 Toy Maker Bath, Somerset, England
Emma Painter Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Middlesex, England
John E Painter Son Single Male 19 1862 Waiter (Eating House) St Luke's, Middlesex, England
Emily S Painter Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Burnisher St Luke's, Middlesex, England
Arthur Painter Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar St Luke's, Middlesex, England
Charles R Painter Son Single Male 1 1880 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England
House number 20
Street Rose Street
Parish St Luke
County London, Middlesex
Registration district Holborn
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 364
Folio 15
Page 21


https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(worth a look for Burials on above)

Yes, I quite agree Jacqueline.

I posted further details of the Emma Sophia Painter that the poster seems to have assumed was her ancestor in an attempt to reinforce your findings :-)

EDIT

Not sure where the School Teacher and Devon come into this.

The woman who died as Thorogood is almost certainly the one on the 1911, and her mother was EMILY Sophia Painter

Westminster Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) EMMA SOPHIA
Last name PAINTER
Birth year 1879
Birth day 1
Birth month Jan
Baptism year 1881
Baptism day 10
Baptism month Jan
Parish St John the Evangelist, Smith Square
Father's first name(s) Henry (Cab Driver)
Mother's first name(s) Annie
County Middlesex
Page 158
Record set Westminster Baptisms
(abode, 14, Horseferry Road)


(for 1879 Birth, same time, George William, John Henry, William Thomas)

Chris :)

Still together in 1911, so I don't think that is the correct Emma

Name: Alfred Walter Osborn
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 3 Pagden St, Battersea
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 14
Estimated Marriage Year: 1897
Occupation: GAS STOKER
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 2163
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Walter Osborn 34
Emma Sophia Osborn 32
Alfred Osborn 12
Emily Edith Osborn 9
Ethel Myra Osborn 7
Ellen Louisa Osborn 5
Harry William Osborn 4
Annie Osborn 2
George William Osborn 0

This is that couple in 1901 (not seeing them yet in 1911)

Name: Alfred W Osborne
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Emma S Osborne
Birth Place: Battersea, London, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration District: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 444
Folio: 100
Page Number: 39
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred W Osborne 24
Emma S Osborne 22
Alfred W Osborne 2
Ethel A Osborne 11/12

That Painter / Osborne marriage was the one I posted, then discarded this morning.

Name: Emma Sophia Painter
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Age: 19
Spouse: Alfred Walter Osborne, Gas Stoker
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Jul 1897
Parish: St George the Martyr, Battersea
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Henry Painter, Cab Driver
Spouse Father: Alfred Walter Osborne, Gas Stoker
Register Type: Parish Register

Kaye

Do you have any documents to back up your statements?

Your grandmother's birth cert is an absolute necessity, I would think

Ann

How does that birth fit in with the info given by Kaye?

Kaye

Feedback should be added on here, so all can see

Emma Sophia Painter did not marry Charles Wright

WHO was your grandmother?



Births Mar 1879 (>99%)

Painter Emma Sophia St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 449



Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)

FOY Ellen Maria Wandsworth 1d 1043
HOLLAND John Edward Wandsworth 1d 1043
Osborne Alfred Walter Wandsworth 1d 1043
PAINTER Emma Sophia Wandsworth 1d 1043

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Name: Emma Wright
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1882
Registration District: St. George Hanover Square
County: London
Event Place: St. George Hanover Square, London, England
Volume: 1A
Page: 477
Line Number: 109

message from Kaye


all i know about charles wright is that he was my grand mothers father surposed to have been born in Devon nr. exeter. married to emma sophie painter. she was born at St.Gearges hospital Hyde park square 1879. Also he was said to be a school teacher. Hope this
helps

Kaye - can you return with some feedback - I know that you are watching this

Name: Emily Sophia Painter
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Age: 28
Spouse: Charles Wright
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Oct 1892
Parish: St Paul, Clerkenwell
Borough: Islington
Spouse Father: James Wright, Deceased
Register Type: Parish Register


Emily's father is John Painter, a Doll Maker

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
37, Whiskin Street, Clerkenwell, Holborn, London, England

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Wright Head Married Male 39 1862 Carriers Loader Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Transcription
Emily S Wright Wife Married Female 36 1865 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England Transcription
Charles J Wright Son Single Male 7 1894 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Transcription
Sidney E Wright Son Single Male 6 1895 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Transcription
Emily Z Wright Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Transcription
Arthur Wright Son Single Male 2 1899 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Transcription
John E Painter Brother-In-Law Single Male 39 1862 Jewellers Porter St Luke's, Middlesex, England Transcription
Charles R Painter Brother-In-Law Single Male 21 1880 Stick Bender & Dresser St Luke's, Middlesex, England Transcription

Name: Emily Sophia Painter
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: St Luke
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 670

:-) :-) :-)

Kaye

You can now look for both Charles and Emily with their families in 1871 and 1881 censuses

They are FREE on:

https://familysearch.org/