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You need to purchase a copy of the marriage cert to set you on the right track Raymond. :-)

Unfortunately Raymond does not have a place of birth for Charles J HIll in his tree on here.

Umm, apparently born 1894 Ann.


3 born in 1894.........

Which one??


Births Jun 1894 (>99%)

Hill Charles James Greenwich 1d 1018
Hill Charles John Edmonton 3a 346

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
Hill Charles John Kensington 1a 115

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Name: Charles J Hill
Event Type: Other
Event Date: 1897
Event Place: Borough of Wandsworth, London, England
GS Film Number: 002354784 , Digital Folder Number: 007591470 , Image Number: 01490

Name: May Fisk
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1916
Registration District: Willesden
County: Middlesex
Event Place: Willesden, Middlesex, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Hill
Volume: 3A
Page: 631
Line Number: 113

Hill probably married one of the following people
Name: Charles J Hill

where did this happen Raymond?

Hi,
Can anyone help me find out more info on a Charles J Hill. Born in 1894, Married to May fisk in 1916. May was born on 18th June 1891.
They had 5 children Charles, Maisie, Ada Eileen And Muriel

Many Thanks
Ray Hill

I am pleased it makes sense to you!

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watch it!! I was on a roll - I think we have landed gentry on the board :-D :-D :-D :-D

What the............

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Baptism: 21 Jul 1822 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James Ackers - 2 Son of Robert Ackers & Ann
Born: 17 May
Abode: Pemberton
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: Edwd. Hill Curate
Register: Baptisms 1822 - 1825, Page 7, Entry 52
Source: LDS Film 1885677


Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerk Project


www.lan-opc.org.uk/Wigan/Wigan/allsaints/baptisms_1822s.html

... Wigan, Lancashire, England James Ackers - 2 Son of Robert Ackers & Ann Born: 17 May ... Wigan, Lancashire, England John Melling - 3 Son of John Melling ...

go on this site and see the picture of this enormous house!!!!

Ackers of Great Moreton Hall

The Great Moreton estate was bought for £57,107 in 1793 by James and Holland Ackers of Bank House, Manchester, the sons of a fustian manufacturer from Bolton (Lancs), who had made a fortune from land speculation in Manchester. Holland Ackers died in 1801, leaving a young son, and during his minority James lived at Great Moreton. In 1809, when his nephew came of age, James built Lark Hill House, Salford as an alternative residence, and Great Moreton passed to Holland’s descendants. His grandson, George Holland Ackers (1812-72) inherited in 1836 and employed Edward Blore to build a large new house on a new site in 1841-46. On the expiry of his widow’s life interest in about 1900, the house passed to his elder daughter Georgiana (d. 1907), the wife of Sir Charles Shakerley, bt.. At her death it passed to her second son, who changed his name to Shackerley-Ackers in 1908, but later reverted to Shakerley. He sold the house for use as a school in 1931, and inherited the family baronetcy on the death of his elder brother in 1943.




Landed families of Britain and Ireland: (12) Ackers of ...


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Ackers family of Great Moreton Hall (Cheshire) Ackers, Holland ... High Sheriff of Lancashire, 1800. He was unmarried but had a mistress, Ann Coops, ...

The Acker family of Little Moreton, Congleton

An old Anglo-Saxon surname, referring to a plot of arable land, deriving from the old English pre-7th Century word "aecer", meaning a ploughed field or cultivated land, which became "acker" (or 'acre') in Middle English. There are a number of spelling variations, including Acres, Ackers, Acors, Akers, Akess and Akker. The first recorded spelling of the family name is that of William del Acr',1214, in the "Curia Regis Rolls of Sussex", during the reign of King John. A Coat of Arms granted to the Ackers family is a silver shield with three gold acorns, husked green, on a black bend, the Crest being a dove rising proper, in the beak an acorn of the arms, and the Motto: "La Liberté" (Liberty).

One George Ackers (born 1788) owned Little Moreton Hall near Congleton, Cheshire and his son, George Holland Ackers, was High Sheriff for the County of Cheshire in 1852. The Ackers of Moreton Hall were landed gentry who also built Christ Church, in Wheelock near Sandbach. There is also an Ackers Crossing in the same area. James Ackers ( 1752 - 1824 ), described as the 'father of the silk trade' in Manchester, built Lark Hill Mansion on the site of what is now Salford Museum and Art Gallery. In 1792 he was Borough Reeve to the City of Manchester, later Deputy Lieutenant for Lancashire and in 1800 was appointed High Sheriff of Lancashire. The Ackers also had a branch in Merseyside, where Ackers Hall was located and lands were held in the surrounding districts and townships of Roby, Huyton, Whiston, Prescot and Rainhill.



Old Historic Families of Lancashire - geni family tree


www.geni.com/projects/Old-Historic-Families-of-Lancashire/15657

The Acker family of ... later Deputy Lieutenant for Lancashire and in 1800 was appointed ... The start of the old Lancashire family of Standish came into

Book List, Wigan Family & Local History Society


www.wiganworld.co.uk/familyhistory/booklist.php

ACKERS, Norma: The Civil War in ... Family Hist: ADVICE: Wigan Heritage Leaflets, ... Family Hist: FRANCE, R Sharpe: Lancashire Acts of Parliament 1415-1800: Local Hist.

Early Victorian Abram - Leigh Lancashire


www.leighlife.com/?page=wiki&id=leighlife:earlyabram

The staff of the Wigan Record Office have given assistance in providing ... The Ackers family first came into the Bickershaw estate ... Directory of Lancashire,

Old Historic Families (1)



Families of the Northwest of England, Greater Manchester, Cheshire & Lancashire


Many of the old families of Greater Manchester, Lancashire and Cheshire can trace their ancestries back to the Norman Conquest of 1066. Their names effectively echo the long history of the region and are imprinted in districts and townships whose streets and placenames record their passing.


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The Acker family of Little Moreton, Congleton


An old Anglo-Saxon surname, referring to a plot of arable land, deriving from the old English pre-7th Century word "aecer", meaning a ploughed field or cultivated land, which became "acker" (or 'acre') in Middle English. There are a number of spelling variations, including Acres, Ackers, Acors, Akers, Akess and Akker. The first recorded spelling of the family name is that of William del Acr',1214, in the "Curia Regis Rolls of Sussex", during the reign of King John. A Coat of Arms granted to the Ackers family is a silver shield with three gold acorns, husked green, on a black bend, the Crest being a dove rising proper, in the beak an acorn of the arms, and the Motto: "La Liberté" (Liberty).
One George Ackers (born 1788) owned Little Moreton Hall near Congleton, Cheshire and his son, George Holland Ackers, was High Sheriff for the County of Cheshire in 1852. The Ackers of Moreton Hall were landed gentry who also built Christ Church, in Wheelock near Sandbach. There is also an Ackers Crossing in the same area. James Ackers ( 1752 - 1824 ), described as the 'father of the silk trade' in Manchester, built Lark Hill Mansion on the site of what is now Salford Museum and Art Gallery. In 1792 he was Borough Reeve to the City of Manchester, later Deputy Lieutenant for Lancashire and in 1800 was appointed High Sheriff of Lancashire. The Ackers also had a branch in Merseyside, where Ackers Hall was located and lands were held in the surrounding districts and townships of Roby, Huyton, Whiston, Prescot and Rainhill.




Old Historic Families of Manchester, Cheshire and Lancashire 1


www.manchester2002-uk.com/history/old-families2.html

... family names in Greater Manchester ... A Coat of Arms granted to the Ackers family is a ... later Deputy Lieutenant for Lancashire and in 1800 was ...

Ackers in Wigan in the 1700s/1800s

Three of the sons Thomas, Hamlet and Ralph out of the 8 children born in Newton and Wigan in the 1730/40s appear to have stayed in Wigan. A number of the Ackers living in Wigan in the 1800s seem to have come from that source. There doesn't appear to be any other Ackers families actually living in Wigan in the 1730s/40s but there is a family in West Houghton that includes a number of children born in the same era and with the same christian names as our family. The father of the West Houghton family is also called Hamlet which suggests the families may be linked but this is unknown.

The youngest 3 siblings out of the 8 are listed as born in Ince, Wigan so it can be assumed that is where the family lived in the 1740/50s. Later on, Ralph is recorded as a Husbandsman ( tenant farmer ) living in Wallgate, Wigan in the 1780s and as there arent any other Ralph's around must be the right one. There are 2 Thomas Ackers around in the right era, one a farmer/weaver in Hindley ( married to Frances ) and one who marries Betty Ashurst in Wigan in 1764 and appears to be the correct Thomas due to the children's names agreeing with the will of William Ackers. This Thomas appears to move to Winstanley, Wigan and his offspring are baptised at Billinge church and are farmers on the Winstanley estate. There was an Ackers farm there in living memory. There is a Hamlet Ackers, a weaver, living in Hindley in 1780s, the assumption is he is our Hamlet but there is one born in 1750 in West Houghton also ?

In the 1851 census there are 2 Ackers families on farms in the Winstanley area, and a number of familes in Hindley and Wigan itself.



Ackers in Wigan in the 1700s/1800s - Peter Ackers 1800


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Ackers in Wigan in the 1700s/1800s. ... The father of the West Houghton family is also called Hamlet which suggests the families may be linked but this is unknown.

Name: Ernest Ackers
Event Type: Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1927
Registration District: Wigan
County: Lancashire
Event Place: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Coulshed
Volume: 8C
Page: 78
Line Number: 98

Ernest Ackers probably married one of the following people
Name: Mary Coulshed

Name: Ernest Ackers
Event Type: Death Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1978
Registration District: Knowsley
County: Lancashire
Event Place: Knowsley, Lancashire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 23 Jul 1903
Volume: 36
Page: 0146
Line Number: 84

There is this birth for a Mary Coulshed......

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Coulshed Name:Mary Coulshed
Registration Year:1904
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Wigan
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8c
Page:135

I'm not seeing an appropriate death so maybe she remarried too?

??

1911 England Census
about Mary Coulshed Name:Mary Coulshed
Age in 1911:6
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1905
Relation to Head:Daughter
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Orrell, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Orrell
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:46 Chapel Lamberhead Green Orrell Near Wigan
Registration district:Wigan
Registration District Number:458
Sub-registration district:Pemberton

Household Members:

Thomas Coulshed 31 (Coal Miner (Hewer)) Billinge, Lancashire
Margaret Coulshed 30 (Married 7 years.....2 children born and living)
Mary Coulshed 6
Arthur Coulshed 8/12
Elizabeth Lowe 49 (Sister In Law) Married 5 years.....No children

The marriage cert would confirm.