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Thank you prickly holly your a star..

I've been looking at Hyam lee this morning and I think I've found his parents they are named as Alfred lee an anceham/Amelia lee ( different for some reason in 81&91 census) also a brother Alfred lee born 1882. But def no children for him of myril. Or myril and Edmund, which I thought was sad as it would of been nice to tell my mum that her dad did have half siblings as he was an only child.

Thank you again

Trudy :-)

It seems the Alice Maud Mary Earl who married Alfred Haberfield died in 1901....


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Alice Maud M Haberfield Name:Alice Maud M Haberfield
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866
Registration Year:1901
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death:35
Registration district:Bristol
Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:6a
Page:12


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Alice Maude M Earl Name:Alice Maude M Earl
Registration Year:1868
Registration Quarter:Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district:Norwich
Inferred County:Norfolk
Volume:4b
Page:182

I think Alice Maud was the daughter of Alfred Haberfield and Alice Maud Mary Earl.

I also think that Edmund claimed Alice was a widow on the Military record........to cover the fact that she had 2 children born out of wedlock.

Added:

1901 England Census
about Alfred Haberfield Name:Alfred Haberfield
Age:34
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867
Relation to Head:Head
Spouse:Alice Haberfield
Birth Place:Bristol
Civil Parish:Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish:Bedminster St Paul
County/Island:Gloucestershire
Country:England
Registration district:Bristol
Sub-registration district:Bedminster

Household Members:

Alfred Haberfield 34
Alice Haberfield 35
Alice M Haberfield 13
Eleanor C Haberfield



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Alice Maud Haberfield Name:Alice Maud Haberfield
Registration Year:1888
Registration Quarter:Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district:Barton Regis
Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:6a
Page:152

On the military record, it states that Reginald was born 24/06/1907.....Alice 19/05/1909 and Basil 1911 in Ipswich



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Reginald Kimberley Haberfield Name:Reginald Kimberley Haberfield
Registration Year:1907
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Bristol
Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:6a
Page:189



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Alice Haberfield Name:Alice Haberfield
Registration Year:1909
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Bristol
Inferred County:Gloucestershire
Volume:6a
Page:46

Thank you gins

Trudy :-)

Trudy

I've added to the service record above

This is the first marriage for Alice



England, Select Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900

Name:Alfred Haberfield

Gender:Male

Marital Status:Single

Marriage Date:22 May 1887

Marriage Place:Bristol, St Jude, Gloucestershire, England

Father:
Henry Haberfield

Spouse:
Alice Maud Mary Earl

FHL Film Number:4202659


She was much older than Edmund

Not sure about this record, needs checking out further

Thank you pricklyholly

Trudy :-)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Edmund Alfred S Thomas Name:Edmund Alfred S Thomas
Registration Year:1883
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Bethnal Green
Inferred County:London
Volume:1c
Page:222


Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
HABERFIELD Alice M Bristol 6a 326
Thomas Edmund A S Bristol 6a 326

Well done Jan :-)

Just thought I'd add this about her second husband who looks to have married previously



British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920


Name:Edmund Alfred Sidney Thomas

Gender:Male

Birth Date:abt 1883

Birth Place:Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Age at Enlistment:24

Marriage Date:25 Dec 1910

Marriage Place:Register Office Bristol

Document Year:1907

Regimental Number:48009

Regiment Name:Royal Horse Artillery

Number of Images:22

Form Title:Short Service Attestation


Family Members:


Name

Relation to Soldier


Edmund Alfred Sidney Thomas Self (Head) Occupation: Carman
Alice Maud Haberfield Spouse
Basil Sidney Thomas Child
Reginald Kimber Hatinfield Thomas Child
Alice Haberfield Thomas


Added

On the marriage details listed on his service records, Alice Maud was a widow at the time of her marriage to Edmund

lol I'm sending a bottle then :-D

But as I said before thank you so so much it means a lot when strangers are willing to put their day on hold to help others. And I for one am really grateful. I'll keep you up to date with anything new.

Thank you
Trudy x

Only 1 glass??
Seriously, we all do this because it's fun, and for my part I have had loads of help along the way so like to do the same. It's always easier researching other people's families for some reason.
Do let us know if you find out anything else, would love to know.
Jan x

I really can't say thank you enough you really have been great all of you but especially jan who without that post my g grandmother would still just be a name but now it feels like she's real..

Thank you guys so much

Sending you a glass of wine jan to go with your gloating,, well deserved.. :-D

Trudy :-)

Well done everyone, that's just brilliant. A real team effort, I just could not find her 2nd marriage no matter what I did.
Just goes to show that what seems a bit crazy at first glance can actually turn out to be right - hunches can pay off.
Nearly didn't post that marriage as I thought it might be laughed at, so glad I did.
And thank you for posting your query Trudy, this has been one of the fun ones!
Off for that gloat now ??
Jan x :-D

Jan

can I please say a big thank you to you because if you hadn't put the record up for myrtle and hyam I would still be stuck, but because of you and your talented brain others have been able to help me as well your all brilliant.

You can now gloat jan you have every right to.

Thank you thank you thank you

Trudy :-)

Omg you lot are absolutely brilliant thank you so so much for helping me I don't know how to thank you all enough...

:-) <3

Trudy

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Myrll Primrose Thomas
Name: Myrll Primrose Thomas
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1893
Date of Registration: Sep 1973
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Dartford
Inferred County: Kent

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Myrll Primrose Thomas
Name: Myrll Primrose Thomas
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1893
Date of Registration: Sep 1973
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Dartford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5f
Page: 827

Well done,Jan!!!!!

Deaths Dec 1959 (>99%)
THOMAS Edmund A S 76 Dartford 5b 410

Thank you argyllgran

Trudy :-)

Oh so she married again then.

Thank you Maureen

Trudy :-)

Just tagging along....

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Myrll P Lee
Name: Myrll P Lee
Spouse Surname: Thomas (Edmund A S)
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 519


Maureen

The only Lee / Maunder children born within a reasonable time frame from the marriage, were born in Hull and Sculcoates.