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17 Dec 2014 03:53 |
Hi everyone,
I have just found an inference to my great uncle after a number of years looking. His name is James Steele , he was born in 1843 if not in Leslie Fife then Inverkeithing Fife. He is supposed to have died in 1903 at a poor house in Hamilton Scotland, He would have been 61.. I have found that he had a wife or companion named Jane Falconer, ( cant find a marriage ) she is reported to be a widow at his death so she must have been alive at the time. His father was James Steele and his mother was Isabella.
Any help finding out more about James jr. would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Jack Steele Ontario, Canada Can any one
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Dec 2014 04:51 |
What other info are you looking for
If it's a marriage then that would be on Scotlands People website which is a pay site
Have you found him on any census ?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Dec 2014 04:56 |
?? 1901 census NAME: James Steele AGE: 59 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1842 RELATIONSHIP: Head SPOUSE'S NAME : Jane C Steele GENDER: Male WHERE BORN: Dundee, c forfar REGISTRATION NUMBER: 313 REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Murroes CIVIL PARISH: Murroes COUNTY: Angus ADDRESS: Backmuir Of Duntrune Cottage OCCUPATION: Quarry Forman (pavement) ED: 2 HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 108 LINE: 14 ROLL: CSSCT1901_113 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE James Steele 59 Jane C Steele 69 Maggie Steele 23 Robert Davie 62 Isabella S Murray 63
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Dec 2014 05:00 |
Or 1891 Scotland Census about James Steele Name: James Steele Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jane Steele Gender: Male Where born: Forfar, Forfar Registration Number: 282/4 Registration district: St Andrew Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angus Address: Backmuir Occupation: Quarrier ED: 50 Household schedule number: 58 LINE: 7 Roll: CSSCT1891_96 Household Members: Name Age James Steele 50 Jane Steele 59 Maggie Steele 13
Source Citation: Parish: Dundee; ED: 50; Page: 14; Line: 7; Roll: CSSCT1891_96.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Dec 2014 05:04 |
Same couple in 1881 but Jane father isn't a Falconer surname 1881 Scotland Census about James Steele Name: James Steele Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relationship: Son-in-law Spouse's name : Jane Steele Gender: Male Where born: Forfar, Forfar Registration Number: 282/4 Registration district: St Andrew Civil Parish: Dundee County: Angusk Address: Backmuir Duntrune Occupation: Quarrier ED: 42 Household schedule number: 137 LINE: 15 Roll: cssct1881_88 Household Members: Name Age James Christie 83 James Steele 42 Jane Steele 49 Margt Steele 3
Source Citation: Parish: Dundee; ED: 42; Page: 28; Line: 15; Roll: cssct1881_88.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Dec 2014 05:15 |
Would this be him in 1851 with a younger brother 1851 Scotland Census about James Steele Name: James Steele Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Leslie, fife Parish Number: 432 Civil Parish: Inverkeithing Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Fife Address: High Street Occupation: Scholar Re P Relief ED: 1 Page: 26 Household schedule number: 130 LINE: 7 Roll: CSSCT1851_89 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Moodie 42 head of house occ washing and sewing James Steele 8 John Steele 6
Source Citation: Parish: Inverkeithing; ED: 1; Page: 26; Line: 7; Roll: CSSCT1851_89; Year: 1851.
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Astra
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17 Dec 2014 07:12 |
That would be this marriage but I don't think it is the correct couple.
Name: James Steele Spouse's Name: Jane Christie Event Date: 30 Jan 1874 Event Place: Monifieth,Angus,Scotland
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11310-1 , System Origin: Scotland-ODM , GS Film number: 6035516
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Jacqueline
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17 Dec 2014 10:01 |
Do you have the death cert? I imagine not, as your info about his death is rather vague
You say James was your great uncle. Which of his siblings was your grandparent?
Or should he be referred to as a great, great uncle, in view of his year of birth?
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alviegal
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17 Dec 2014 11:27 |
This is brother John, for ref.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hill Street, Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland
Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Margt McCormack Head Widow Female 49 1812 Char Woman Limekilns, Fife, Scotland Transcription John Steel Boarder Unmarried Male 16 1845 Grocers Messenger Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 99, Main Street, Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Learn more Print transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Steele Head Married Male 36 1845 General Blacksmith Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland Transcription Margaret Steele Wife Married Female 26 1855 Power Loom Cotton Weaver Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Catherine Steele Daughter - Female 4 1877 - Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription John Steele Son - Male 2 1879 - Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription William Steele Son - Male 0 1881 - Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription James Green Brother-In-Law Unmarried Male 22 1859 Freestone Quarrier Bishopbriggs, Stirlingshire, Scotland Transcription Hector Green Brother-In-Law Unmarried Male 16 1865 Apprentice Moulder Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription William Moodie Boarder Unmarried Male 18 1863 Baker Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland Transcription Elizabeth Green Servant Unmarried Female 25 1856 General Servant Domestic Galston, Ayrshire, Scotland
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alviegal
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17 Dec 2014 11:32 |
I see from your tree on ancestry that you have this information.
John Green Steele Birth 1845 in Leslie, Fife, Scotland Death 12 June 1913 in 16 Colledge St; Pollockshaws, Glasgow, Scotland
PARENTS
Isabella Douglas Birth ???? in Scotland Death ???? in The Gorbals, Glasgow, Scotland
John Steele Birth ???? in Scotland Death ???? in The Gorbals, Scotland
MARRIED
Isabella Hunter Wilson Birth 1859 ? in The Gorbals, Glasgow, Scotland Death 25 June 1913 in Victoria Infirmary, Glasgow.
Is this a different John to the one I posted above? He appears to have married a Margaret, possibly Green, and his father is John not James.
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alviegal
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17 Dec 2014 11:42 |
Ah, I take it Margaret died.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Wilson Street, Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Learn more Print transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Steele Head Married Male 46 1845 Blacksmith Fife, Scotland Transcription Isabella Steele Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Berwick, Berwickshire, Scotland Transcription Catherine Steele Daughter - Female 14 1877 - Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription George Steele Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland Transcription James Steele Son - Male 5 1886 - Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland Transcription Elizabeth Steele Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Isabella Steele Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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Jack
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17 Dec 2014 15:39 |
Hi all you amazing genealogy people.
Thank you for your efforts. I do appreciate it. I see that the James Steele who died in the poor house in Hamilton was not related to me. So onward goes the search for him. I have a copy of the page of the 1851 census showing the 2 boys living in Inverkeithing with a Mrs Moudie. Thank you for the information on the 1861 census but I wonder where James went but I would guess that at 18 years of age he would be out in the world. Re the brother John, I have all the information on him including a picture of him and yes he was a blacksmith. And yes his first wife Margaret Green died of TB at 28 years of age, she 3 children all had problems, mostly to do with pulmonary problems. His 2nd wife Isabella had children one of which was my grandfather George who I knew well. He is buried in The prospect Cemetery in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Thank you again.
Cheers,
Jack Steele Ontario, Canada
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17 Dec 2014 16:45 |
His death is registered on Scotlandspeople,
STEELE James, General Lab, age 61.
>>>WIDOWER<<< of Jane Falconer.
Died,,,,19th December 1903.at Combination Post/Poor House, Hamilton -?residence--15 Castle Street Hamilton.
Parents, James Steele --Handloom Weaver, Isabella Steele ms Wilson . both dec,
Jane precededed him by the information on the entry. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jane Falconer a H,L,Weaver and James STEEL a H.L Weaver married on 4th December 1885 in Hamilton.after banns. at 34 Chapel Street Hamilton.
He was aged 42 and Jane was aged 38.
His father James Steele and Isabella Steele -ms Wilson. Janes father Alexander Falconer H.L,Weaver and Jane Falconer--,ms?
A full copy entry can be got from Scotlandspeople.
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alviegal
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18 Dec 2014 20:39 |
So this appears to be Jane's family.
1851 Scotland Census about Jane Falconer Name: Jane Falconer Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relationship: Daughter Father: Alexander Falconer Mother: Ann Falconer Gender: Female Where born: Hamilton, Lanark Parish Number: 647 Civil Parish: Hamilton Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Lanarkshire Address: 59 Muir St ED: 2A Page: 21 Household schedule number: 85 LINE: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_168 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Falconer 31 Ann Falconer 29 Samuel Falconer 7 Jane Falconer 4 James Falconer 2 Elizabeth Aird 18 Sister-in-law
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Luchlee Street, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Learn more Print transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alex Falconer Head Married Male 40 1821 Worsted Weaver Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Jean Falconer Wife Married Female 38 1823 Tambourer Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Samuel Falconer Son - Male 16 1845 Tailor Jour Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Jean Falconer Daughter - Female 14 1847 Tambourer Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription James Falconer Son - Male 11 1850 Silk Weaver Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Alexander Falconer Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription John Falconer Son - Male 6 1855 - Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Agnes Falconer Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2, Leechlee Street, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Learn more Print transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alexander Falconer Head Married Male 52 1819 Silk Weaver Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Jane Falconer Wife Married Female 56 1815 Tambourer Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Jane Falconer Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1848 Tambourer Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription James Falconer Son Unmarried Male 21 1850 Painter Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Alexander Falconer Son Unmarried Male 19 1852 Cork Cutter Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription John Falconer Son Unmarried Male 16 1855 Tailor Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription >>34, Chapel Street, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Learn more Print transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alexander Falcone Head Married Male 62 1819 Watchman Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Transcription Jane Falcone Wife Married Female 60 1821 - Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription >>Jane Falcone Daughter Unmarried Female 34 1847 Tambourer Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription James Falcone Son Unmarried Male 31 1850 Painters House Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Alexander Falcone Son Unmarried Male 29 1852 Cork Cutter Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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18 Dec 2014 21:33 |
alviegal,
Jack isnt following this man anymore as apparently as hes not his James Steele S.
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