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If the baptism is right for William in Greenwich his fathers name was William on that.

The marriage to Jane Farmar has his father as a Richard.

It's just a thought but once you have the birth cert please let us know the outcome.

Thanks Mel

Jane Snowball - what a fabulous name!

I did my best to read through his army record on Ancestry, I struggled with some of the place names. It doesn't seem to be a complete record just his discharge papers.

"He was with the expedition to the East for 2.5 years and was present at the battles of Alma Balaclava ,,, Ker..arry(?) and siege of Sebastapol. He wears a medal for service in the Crimea with clasps for Alma Balaclava InKernea…(?) and Sebastapol.

His service has been exemplary. He was in possession of 4 good conduct badges when promoted to the rank of Sergeant Wheeler.
He wears a silver medal for distinguished service in the field and will receive a gratuity of £10 on discharge.
He wears a silver medal for long service and good conduct and will receive a gratuity of £10 on discharge.
There is 1 record against him in the Regimental Defaulters Book punished summarily.
[He left the service as he was disabled due to chronic rheumatism. Pains in his left side. So he was declared medically unfit for service.]
He was 5ft 6.5ins. Fair complexion. Brown hair. Hazel eyes."

Jill

Missed a bit ... Served abroad for 2.5 years.
Record also states that he was born in Greenwich.

Purely speculative, a possibility for a marriage in Ireland?


Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958

NAME: William Johnson<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
DATE OF REGISTRATION: 1846
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Armagh
VOLUME: 1
PAGE NUMBER: 261
FHL FILM NUMBER: 101241

RECORDS ON PAGE:
NAME
Jane Mitchell<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Jane Cunningham<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Joseph Robinson
John McCallister
William Johnson
Anne Hodge
Eliza Devlin Donnelly
Joseph Freeland

Possible births for William and Hannah?


GRO Regimental Birth Indices Supplement (1761 to 1924)

First name(s) WILLIAM J
Last name JOHNSON
Birth year 1850
Place DUBLIN
Country IRELAND
Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices Supplement (1761 to 1924)
Volume R.A.29
Page 104
Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005



GRO Regimental Birth Indices Supplement (1761 to 1924)

First name(s) HANNAH
Last name JOHNSON
Birth year 1852
Place -
Country -
Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices Supplement (1761 to 1924)
Volume R.A.29
Page 108
Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005

and Frederick?

First name(s) FREDERICK
Last name JOHNSON
Birth year 1847
Place -
Country -
Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices Supplement (1761 to 1924)
Volume R.A.29
Page 101
Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Thanks for the information. His service record states he served abroad. would Ireland be classed as abroad even though it was part of the UK at that time?

I will certainly let you know when I receive the birth certificate.

Best wishes

Anne

I hope you took the advice about getting the one which is most likely to be relevant

Hi Anne

Not sure about Ireland being "abroad". More likely the time he was abroad was in those battles - Sebastapol etc. Worth checking the dates and what other battles happened around that time. That would help identify the one that I couldn't read. It may be that he was aborad when there is a gap of three or four years between children.

I have found out the Battles that he might have been involved in. The Crimean War was between 1853 and 1856 and the battles are Alma, Balaclava (he served under Lord Lucan), Inkerman, Kurekdem and Sebastopol. I think the dates of the battles coincide with a break in the birth of the children.

Anne

Heard from GRO. They can trace no birth for Frederick Johnson in Newcastle in 1847. I'm waiting for the Birth Certificate for Martha born 1860. Will let you know.

Anne

Re messages back in January, I have now received the Birth Certificate for Martha Johnson.

DOB 20.09.1860 at 37 George Place, Woolwich
Father : William Johnson - Pensioner, Royal Horse Artillery
Mother: Jane Johnson, formerly Dee
Registered : 25.101860 Greenwich, sub-district Woolwich Dock Yard.

Anne