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Hi I am trying to trace my dad's side of the family. I have come unstuck with his father who married Phyllis Stallard in 1915.
I am trying to find his parents, his dad was William, don't know his mothers name or details.
His brothers and sisters, we don't know anything about them.
My grandfather lived in London but died in Brighton 1958.
Many thanks
Barbara

Have you looked on any census for him?

Get his birth certificate for his parents names

First name(s) JOSEPH
Last name MONK
Birth year 1882
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District HOLBORN
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 805

Wonder if this is him?

Name: Joseph Monk
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Brother-in-law (Brother)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Spitalfields
Civil Parish: St John-at-Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 131 Sandringham Rd N E
Marital Status: Boarder
Occupation: FURRIER
Registration district: Hackney
Registration District Number: 11
Sub-registration district: Central Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 1075
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Vogel 38
Millie Vogel 32
Joseph Monk 31

She is Amelia
Marriages Mar 1910
Monk Amelia London C. 1c 81
VOGEL Joseph London C. 1c 81

Do I take it that you have Joseph's marriage cert to Phyllis for his father's name of William?

If so, could you please give us Williams occupation and ALL the other details from the cert, including witnesses etc.

Thanks,

Dea x

If that is him on 1911 then this should prove useful:

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
**Monk Amelia London C. 1c 81 Scan available - click to view
MOSS Sarah London C. 1c 81 Scan available - click to view
SHRIER Barnett London C 1c 81 Scan available - click to view
**VOGEL Joseph London C. 1c 81 Scan available - click to view

Dea x

This is them on the 1901 ??

Brother and sisters!

Name: Amelia Monk
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Whitechapel, London, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St James Curtain Road Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 36 Cifton street. Unclear !

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Shoreditch South
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 268
Folio: 50
Page Number: 38
Household schedule number: 299
Household Members:
Name Age
Amelia Monk 28 occ tailoress
Joseph Monk 23 occ ??? traveller not readable b bishopsgate
Sarah Monk 21 occ sewer? B bishopsgate

But according to the 1911 census she was born c 1880

Hi many thanks, he definatly was born in Holborn, he was a master builder, a Catholick. and was married in1915.
We have so little info and don't seem to be able to get much more.

Hi many thanks, he definatly was born in Holborn, he was a master builder, a Catholick. and was married in1915.
We have so little info and don't seem to be able to get much more.

On his marriage - Joseph was a correspondence sorter for the Inland Revenue - it was his father William who was a Master Builder and was deceased at the time.

Address for both bride and groom was 103 Englefield Rd., Islington.

Witnesses Maria Louisa Stallard and R ? J Wise.

Dea x

Hi the date was 15/02/1925. Marriage to Phyllis Grace Winifred Stallard. He was living at 103 Engleford Rd. Islington.
Witnesses
Maria Louisa Stallard
R. Wise
Sidney [can't read the rest]

Electoral roll

Name: Phyllis Monk
Year: 1929
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington
she is Phyllis grace Winifred
Living at 17 Waterlow road with Joseph

Hi I'm not sure if Amelia is the one as I think they carried on living round Islington. So wish we could have asked my grandpa but now there are no children left who can fill us in.

???
Occ ??? Builder
1891 census
Name: William Monk
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Monk
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, London, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 127
Folio: 100
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
William Monk 48
Elizabeth Monk 48

No children with them though

Maybe not here he is on the 1901
Name: William Monk
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Euston, London, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:14 Almeida street

Occupation: organ builder

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington, South-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 61
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 193
Folio: 155
Page Number: 5
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
William Monk 58

Hi Shirley, thanks for that info' don't seem to be able to find this so will keep looking. Was there any others registered at the address?

If you are sure he was born Holborn then the birth record has been posted above

In 1911 Phyllis was living at 103 Englefield Rd (the address on their marriage cert) with the Stallard family and her maternal aunt and grandmother both with the surname Wise.

So, neither of the witnesses are related to Joseph (the Sidney mentioned above by Barbara was not a witness but the Registrar.

Dea x

Joseph's father on the certificate was William and his mother Mary Murray. I can't find any record of their marriage but that may have taken place in Ireland. It does state that William was a master builder but all I can find is him as a labourer. There is a family in Essex but this would put Joseph being born Essex and on his birth cert it was Holborn.

Does it say which street he was born in?

The only William Monk living in the Holborn area in 1881 is living at 11, New Street.

By 1891 they are living in Britannia Street, Islington. With the addition of an 8 year old son, Joseph

BUT William is a labourer

It says they were living at 5 St Thomas Place. The 1891 does say Britannia St, but somehow I got 11 City Rd, Islington. Not got 1901 census