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I am tracing Alexander Mutch "farm servant" born c1858 Aberdeen and his wife Mary Watt Ross born c1859 Aberdeen. They were married 12 June 1880 at New Pitsligo Aberdeen. I see them on the 1881 census with a step daughter Elizabeth G Wood born c1876 Tyrie Aberdeen?? Totally thrown as I cant trace a marriage between Mary Watt Ross to a Wood? and she must have been very young to have had daughter Elizabeth, perhaps a marriage didn't take place

Any help appreciated.
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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
North Street, Strichen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Mutch Head Married Male 24 1857 Farm Servt Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Mary Mutch Wife Married Female 23 1858 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Elizabeth G Wood - Unmarried Female 5 1876 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
John L Mutch Son Unmarried Male 0 1881 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription


Nothing on the transcription to indicate Elizabeth's relationship to the head of the household

Name: Robert Taylor Mutch
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 22 Jul 1968
Event Place: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 74
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1893
Birthplace: Aberdeen, Scotland
Father's Name: Alexander Mutch
Mother's Name: Mary Watt Ross

Thanks for the death for Robert Taylor Much Yvonne, I did wonder what happened to him.

Hi Jaqueline, I did see that 1881 census on Ancestry where it shows Elizabeth G Wood to be step child, mothers name Mary Mutch

It does say stepchild.

Elizabeth G Wood

in the 1881 Scotland Census
Record Image Index-only record

Name: Elizabeth G Wood
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Step Child (Child)
Mother's name: Mary Mutch
Gender: Female
Where born: Tyrie, Aberdeen
Registration Number: 241
Registration district: Strichen
Civil Parish: Strichen
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: North St
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 87
LINE: 19
Roll: cssct1881_69
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Mutch 24
Mary Mutch 23
Elizabeth G Wood 5
John L Mutch 11 Mo

The Mary being her mother could be an Ancestry assumption - Step-child then could have different meanings to the one we use today.

Scotland's People only has one birth for an Elizabeth G 1875/1876 but it isn't in Tyrie or Aberdeen; 5 births for Elizabeths in Aberdeenshire but none in Tyrie.

Mmmm food for thought! I don't see her on the next census where she would be 15 yrs old. There seems to be so many Alexander Mutch and Marys on Ancestry. I have the correct Alexander Mutch born 2 June 1882 at 90 High St. New Pitsligo (Tyrie) parents are Alexander Mutch farm servant and Mary Watt Ross (I have birth document). I see them on the 1881 census with 11 month old son John L Mutch but can t see a birth on sp to confirm. Alexander Mutch and Mary Watt Ross were married 12 June 1880. There is someone on Ancestry who has all the children listed including a Bathia Coutts Mutch born 1890 (I traced a death on sp in 1983 which confirms her mothers maiden name as Ross) but this person has her mothers maiden name as Anderson.. So get both confusing and annoying. I cant seem to trace Mary Watts Ross on census records before 1881 :-(

Does the marriage cert name Mary's parents?

just thinking that mary watt ross that the name watt dose not seem like a middle name could she have been born mary watt and her mother married a ross so took that name

Fmp has no relationship for them.


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
North Street, Strichen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Mutch Head Married Male 24 1857 Farm Servt Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary Mutch Wife Married Female 23 1858 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Elizabeth G Wood - Unmarried Female 5 1876 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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John L Mutch Son Unmarried Male 0 1881 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tillykeira Cotter House, Lonmay, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Mutch Head Married Male 33 1858 Ag Lab Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary Mutch Wife Married Female 32 1859 Ag Labs Wife Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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John L Mutch Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Alexander Mutch Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary A Mutch Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Frederick G Mutch Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Bathia C Mutch Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Rathen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, School Street, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Mutch Head Married Male 41 1860 Farmservant Cattleman Worker New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary Mutch Wife Married Female 40 1861 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Bathia C Mutch Daughter - Female 11 1890 Scholar Rathen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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James R Mutch Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Robert T Mutch Son - Male 7 1894 Scholar Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Henry A Mutch Son - Male 2 1899 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland

02 April 1935 - Aberdeen Journal - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Death
At 7 High Street, New Pitsligo, on 31st March, 1935, Mary Watt Ross, aged 74 years, wife of Alexander Mutch. Funeral on Wednesday, 3rd inst., at 2 p.m., to Turlundie Churchyard. All friends respectfully invited.


11 October 1941 - Aberdeen Journal - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Acknowledgment
MUTCH - The Family of the late Alexander Mutch, High Street, New Pitsligo, wish to thank all friends and neighbours for expressions of sympathy in their recent bereavement.

Chris :)

edits (below from google search)


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5th of October 2013 05:28 PM
A great & interesting website.
I have a long family connection with New Pitsligo. My Grandmother Mina Mutch was born here in 1905. She is listed in the register of electors 1931, living at no 7 High Street, along with her parents & sister Bathia. Mina's parents Alexander Mutch & Mary Watt Ross are buried in New Pitsligo churchyard along with her maternal grandmother Helen Cordiner.

Mina's father Alexander was born here in 1859, his parents were Alexander Mutch & Ann Clark.
I am looking for a photo &/or information on the poorhouse that used to be in the village.

http://www.newpitsligo.org/guest_book.html

A few more details of the marriage. Mary does not have Watt as part of her name here.

Alexander Mutch, Bachelor of Lochpots, Fraserburgh age 23 s/o Alexander Mutch, deceased Farm Servant and Ann Mutch Nee Clark

married at 32 Low Street 12.6.1880 CofS

Mary Ross Domestic Servant of 32 Low Street, New Pitsligo d/o David Ross deceased, Ag. Lab and Ellen Philip widow of a Farm servant (nee Cordiner)

Witnesses Thomas Mackay and Ann Mutch

On the subject of Mary Watt Ross, not sure about this one. If she is illegitimate,
her mother could possibly be Hellen Philip and Ross is her father's name. Watt could be her grandmother's maiden name or the surname of any of her ancestors.
Just a thought.



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poorhouse, Low Street, Tyrie (Aberdeen), Newpitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Wd Philip Head Widow Female 46 1815 Fishmongers Wife Formerly New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Hellen Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Cathrine Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 Schooler New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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>>Mary Ross Daughter - Female 4 1857 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jane Philip Daughter - Female 8 1853 Schooler New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland


EDIT Just seen your post above greyghost so I appear to have the correct family.

? The Philip/Ross connection

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poorhouse, Low Street, Tyrie (Aberdeen), Newpitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation
Wd Philip Head Widow Female 46 1815 Fishmongers Wife Formerly New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Hellen Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Cathrine Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 Schooler New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Mary Ross Daughter - Female 4 1857 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland <<<<
Jane Philip Daughter - Female 8 1853 Schooler New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

EDit - and I was posting that one too Alviegal!

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Pitsligo, High Street, Tyrie (Aberdeen), Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Susan Clark Female 35 1806 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Margaret Clark Female 12 1829 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Bell Clark Female 8 1833 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Ailsa Clark Female 6 1835 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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John Clark Male 4 1837 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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William Philip Male 50 1791 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Helen Philip Female 25 1816 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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George Philip Male 1 1840 Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
136, High Street, Tyrie (Aberdeen), Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Philip Head Married Male 66 1785 Fish Monger Or Carriar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Hellen Philip Wife Married Female 36 1815 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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George Philip Son - Male 10 1841 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Hellen Philip Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Isiebel Philip Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jessie Philip Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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James Philip Son - Male 0 1851 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poors Lodging House, Low Street, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ellen Philip Head Widow Female 55 1816 Fishmonger (A Pauper) New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jean Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1854 General Servt Domestic New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Catherine Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1848 General Servt Domestic New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland


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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
48, Low Street, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hellen Phillip Head Widow Female 66 1815 Knitter Braemar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary Phillip Granddaughter - Female 8 1873 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland




1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poors Lodging Houses, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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Ellen Philip Head Widow Female 78 1813 Stocking Knitter Braemar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poor Houses, Low Street, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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Isabella Bruce Head Widow Female 62 1839 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Charles Harry Bruce Son Single Male 17 1884 Clerk Ceteral Imetion M Co "aberd" Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jane Bruet Or Mcdonald Daughter Married Female 23 1878 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Robert McDonald Grandson - Male 4 1897 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Charles Hanry McDonald Grandson - Male 3 1898 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Ellen Philip Head Widow Female 86 1815 (Pauper) Braemar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

All that is still not finding Elizabeth G Wood but there is this which may be interesting, having asked just for Elizabeth G (no surname) 1875-1877, Aberdeenshire

-18 1875 ROSS ELIZABETH GIBB F NEW PITSLIGO /ABERDEEN 227/0B 0040

From the actual certificate -

1875 in the District of New Pitsligo

Elizabeth Gibb Ross (Illegitimate) b 30 March 1875 10pm @ 50 Low Street, New Pitsligo, Tyrie. No Father named, Mother Mary Ross General Servant.

Could Wood be the Father's surname? Need a look at the Kirk Sessions to see if there is anything written in there!

Wow! sooo sooo much information I need to take time to go thru it all... Thanks guys
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So! trying to get my wee heedy around this.. Is Ellen (Helen) Philips her married name or her maiden name? says nee Cordiner on Alexander Mutch and daughter Mary Ross marriage cert in 1880 ?? :-S :-S

A tree on ancestry has this. I think they are wrong with the death though.



Helen Ellen Gordon Cordiner
Birth ABT 1815 in New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Death BET 1864 AND 1871 in , , , Scotland

PARENTS


James Cordiner Gordon

Helen King



SPOUSE and CHILDREN



William Philip
1782 – 1855

George Philip
1841 –

Hellen Philip
1844 –

Isabella Philip
1845 – 1879

Jessie Philip
1847 –

Catherine Philip
1848 –

James Philip
1851 –

Jane Jean Philip
1853 –

Mary Ross Philip
Birth 16 JUL 1857 in Tyrie, Aberdeen, Scotland