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It looks like Robt came out in 1920 - his 25/7/1968 d.cert says he's been in Canada 49y.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04242.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04241.jpg
[His pob is given as Glasslaw (same as my gran) - it's in Aberdour psh, abt 5km NNW of New Pitsligo]

Evidently he returned to Scotland to fetch his wife and kid coming out again in 1921
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04239.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04240.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04105.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04106.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04179.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-15138/jpg/30927_2000915052-04180.jpg
[Now his pob is given as New Deer - the village is 9km S of New Pitsligo, but the psh is much closer - I don't know where the boundary is, but in 1841 my gg gran is a servant working a couple of kms SSW of New Pitsligo, but she's living in New Deer]
On both passages, Robt lists his closest rellie as his dad, Mr Mutch of Longside village/
Both times, Robt is bound for Pierson MB

Office Name: Pierson MB
Additional Information:
Private Building
Sec. 1, Twp. 3, R. 29, WPM - 1892-04-01, 1914-07-14
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/postal-heritage-philately/post-offices-postmasters/Pages/post-offices-postmasters.aspx
Township measures northing in 6 mile chunks, counting from the US border, so he's 13-18 m from the border (actually 13).
Range measures (usually) westing in 6 mile chunks, counting from the pevious meridian (here the 1st, or prime, meidian)
Actually, the MB-SK border is between R29 WPM and R30 WPM down south, so Pierson was 1-6 m E of the MB-SK border (6 m actually).
You know all meridians meet at the N Pole, so abt half way up SK, the 1st and 2nd meridians are no longer 6*29-174 m apart, so in the north the 2nd meridian (i.e., Long 102 deg W) forms the MB-SK border.
(In British terms, if I go to Jersey (approx Lat 49 deg N) and start at some point and place another point 1km away due E, then thru these two points draw meridians and follow them north, to Lat 60 deg N (it's abt 15 km S of Lerwick in Shetland), then the meridians are no longer 1000 m apart, but just 762 m.)

Anyone can search 1921 and get images, transcriptions for free, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
[Don't let Ancestry bounce you to another of their sites]


Nom: Robert Mutch
Sexe: Male (masculin)
Situation de famille: Married (Marié)
Âge: 25
Année de naissance: vers 1896
Lieu de naissance: Scotland (Écosse)
Lien de parenté avec le chef de famille: Head (Chef)
Conjoint(e): Jeanie Mutch
Lieu de naissance du père: Scotland (Écosse)
Lieu de naissance de la mère: Scotland (Écosse)
Année d’immigration: 1920
Origine raciale ou tribale: Scotch (Écossais)
Province ou territoire: Manitoba
District: Souris
Numéro de district: 36
Numéro du sous-district: 21
Ville, village ou municipalité: Village of Pierson Edward Municipality
Numéro de section: 1
Numéro du canton: 3
Numéro de rang: 29
Numéro de méridien: W1
Municipalité: Edward
Profession: Blacksmith
Revenus: 1200
Voisins: Afficher les autres personnes sur la page
Membres de la famille:
Nom Âge
Robert Mutch 25
Jeanie Mutch 25
Margaret Mutch 2

There's an 1890s map showing parishes of Aberdeenshire (or any Scottish county) at:
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/gazetteer/

I can go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ and search for New Pitsligo.
It takes me to an URL and embedded in the URL are the OS coordinates of the arrow head, viz:
x=388500&y=855500 i.e., 388500,856500
These measure the easting and northing in metres fom a zero datum point 80 km WSW of Eddystone Rock (i.e., 140 km WSW of Lands End)

The newer Landranger coords are NJ 88500 55500 - both identify the same point.
Landranger admits using less accuracy by dropping the final pairs of digits, e.g., NJ 8850 5550 or NJ 885 555 or even NJ 88 55


So, for modern pics, I can try, e.g.,
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ8855
There's a little compass rose tool thingy, so I can move 1 sq N and pick a pic, say:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1293404
There's some blurb in footer - a mini-map - the blue grid lines are 1km apart; and some info:
Subject Location NJ 882 561 [100m precision]
Photographer Location NJ 882 560

(to follow Death above)

Chris :)

11 May 1939 - Aberdeen Journal - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Death
Bean - At 65 High Street, New Aberdour, on 10th May, 1939, Elizabeth Wood, aged 64 years widow of George Bean. Funeral on Saturday 13th inst., at 1.30 p.m., to New Aberdour Churchyard. All friends respectfully invited.

Alex Snr's birth (GROS index)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYB9-52F

For Robert Taylor Mutch's d.cert image - search at:
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/BasicSearch

Elizabeth G's death:

1939 BEAN ELIZABETH GIBB Other surname: ROSS F 64 ABERDOUR (ABERDEEN) /ABERDEEN 169/00 0007

1939 ROSS ELIZABETH GIBB Other surname: BEAN F 64 ABERDOUR (ABERDEEN) /ABERDEEN 169/00 0007

Image says:
Elizabeth Gibb Bean, widow of George Bean, labourer.
Dies 10 May 1939, at 1.50pm, at 65 High Street, New Aberdour.
No father's name given (bother!)
Mother: Mary Ross, general servant, deceased.
Cause of death: Ulceration colitis
Informant: Mary Ann (or it might be Maryana) Milne, daughter, of Pennan Farm Cottage.


George & Elizabeth's marriage:
1897 BEAN GEORGE
ROSS LIZZIE GIBB NEW PITSLIGO /ABERDEEN 227/0B 0001


Elizabeth Bean in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Bean
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : George Bean
Gender: Female
Where born: New Pitsligo (tyrie), aberdeensh
Registration Number: 169
Registration district: Aberdour
Civil Parish: Aberdour
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 1 Elfin Str
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 34
LINE: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_63
Household Members:
Name Age
George Bean 29
Elizabeth Bean 25
Edward J Bean 6
George Bean 3
William Bean 2

Don't know if this is of any relevance. Probably not, as Nancy's William is listed as married to Helen in both 1851 and 1861.

But I'm so confused by all the foregoing posts that I thought I'd throw it into the pot just in case! :

Marriage per SP:

12/05/1851 PHILLIPS WILLIAM
MARY ROSS/FR8268 (FR8268) M ABERDEEN ABERDEEN CITY CITY/ABERDEEN 168/0A 0320 0104

Thanks Alviegal..

Having a look at this just now..

Did see a death for Helen Philip nee Cordiner on sp in 1903, and can see her husband William was around 25 years older.. some age gap ;-) have spent nearly 2 hours looking for a marriage for them?? not on sp or Ancestry, even tried familysearch...

Other trees have this for Helen's husband, William. He was much older than Helen.



William Philip
Birth 01 Sep 1782 in King Edward, Aberdeen, Scotland
Death 06 Jul 1855 in New Pitsligo, Tyrie, Aberdeen, Scotland

and this for Helen.



Helen Cordiner
Birth Abt. 1815 in New deer, aberdeenshire
Death 09 Feb 1903 in New Pitsligo, Tyrie, Aberdeen, Scotland

I've had a look at the above certificate and it reads

Mary Cordiner alias Philip, illegitimate, born 136 High Street, Tyrie.

Mother was Helen Cordiner then it says Helen Philip maiden name Cordiner (widow)

Helen Cordiner (mother) was present and registered the birth.


Whether this is Helen Cordiner or her mother Helen King, I don't know.

136 High Street is the same address as in the 1851 census which I posted.

This seems to be the birth that matches Mary Ross Philip in the above tree.

Name: Mary Cordiner
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1857
Birth Place: Tyrie,Aberdeen,Scotland
Mother: Helen Cordiner Or Philip
FHL Film Number: 6035516

A tree on ancestry has this. I think they are wrong with the death though.



Helen Ellen Gordon Cordiner
Birth ABT 1815 in New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Death BET 1864 AND 1871 in , , , Scotland

PARENTS


James Cordiner Gordon

Helen King



SPOUSE and CHILDREN



William Philip
1782 – 1855

George Philip
1841 –

Hellen Philip
1844 –

Isabella Philip
1845 – 1879

Jessie Philip
1847 –

Catherine Philip
1848 –

James Philip
1851 –

Jane Jean Philip
1853 –

Mary Ross Philip
Birth 16 JUL 1857 in Tyrie, Aberdeen, Scotland

So! trying to get my wee heedy around this.. Is Ellen (Helen) Philips her married name or her maiden name? says nee Cordiner on Alexander Mutch and daughter Mary Ross marriage cert in 1880 ?? :-S :-S

Wow! sooo sooo much information I need to take time to go thru it all... Thanks guys
:-S :-S

All that is still not finding Elizabeth G Wood but there is this which may be interesting, having asked just for Elizabeth G (no surname) 1875-1877, Aberdeenshire

-18 1875 ROSS ELIZABETH GIBB F NEW PITSLIGO /ABERDEEN 227/0B 0040

From the actual certificate -

1875 in the District of New Pitsligo

Elizabeth Gibb Ross (Illegitimate) b 30 March 1875 10pm @ 50 Low Street, New Pitsligo, Tyrie. No Father named, Mother Mary Ross General Servant.

Could Wood be the Father's surname? Need a look at the Kirk Sessions to see if there is anything written in there!

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Pitsligo, High Street, Tyrie (Aberdeen), Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Susan Clark Female 35 1806 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Margaret Clark Female 12 1829 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Bell Clark Female 8 1833 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Ailsa Clark Female 6 1835 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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John Clark Male 4 1837 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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William Philip Male 50 1791 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Helen Philip Female 25 1816 Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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George Philip Male 1 1840 Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
136, High Street, Tyrie (Aberdeen), Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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William Philip Head Married Male 66 1785 Fish Monger Or Carriar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Hellen Philip Wife Married Female 36 1815 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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George Philip Son - Male 10 1841 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Hellen Philip Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Isiebel Philip Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jessie Philip Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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James Philip Son - Male 0 1851 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poors Lodging House, Low Street, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ellen Philip Head Widow Female 55 1816 Fishmonger (A Pauper) New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jean Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1854 General Servt Domestic New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Catherine Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1848 General Servt Domestic New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland


???

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
48, Low Street, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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Hellen Phillip Head Widow Female 66 1815 Knitter Braemar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary Phillip Granddaughter - Female 8 1873 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland




1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poors Lodging Houses, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ellen Philip Head Widow Female 78 1813 Stocking Knitter Braemar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poor Houses, Low Street, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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Isabella Bruce Head Widow Female 62 1839 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Charles Harry Bruce Son Single Male 17 1884 Clerk Ceteral Imetion M Co "aberd" Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jane Bruet Or Mcdonald Daughter Married Female 23 1878 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Robert McDonald Grandson - Male 4 1897 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Charles Hanry McDonald Grandson - Male 3 1898 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Ellen Philip Head Widow Female 86 1815 (Pauper) Braemar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

? The Philip/Ross connection

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poorhouse, Low Street, Tyrie (Aberdeen), Newpitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation
Wd Philip Head Widow Female 46 1815 Fishmongers Wife Formerly New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Hellen Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Cathrine Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 Schooler New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Mary Ross Daughter - Female 4 1857 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland <<<<
Jane Philip Daughter - Female 8 1853 Schooler New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

EDit - and I was posting that one too Alviegal!

On the subject of Mary Watt Ross, not sure about this one. If she is illegitimate,
her mother could possibly be Hellen Philip and Ross is her father's name. Watt could be her grandmother's maiden name or the surname of any of her ancestors.
Just a thought.



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poorhouse, Low Street, Tyrie (Aberdeen), Newpitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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Wd Philip Head Widow Female 46 1815 Fishmongers Wife Formerly New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Hellen Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Cathrine Philip Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 Schooler New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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>>Mary Ross Daughter - Female 4 1857 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Jane Philip Daughter - Female 8 1853 Schooler New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland


EDIT Just seen your post above greyghost so I appear to have the correct family.

A few more details of the marriage. Mary does not have Watt as part of her name here.

Alexander Mutch, Bachelor of Lochpots, Fraserburgh age 23 s/o Alexander Mutch, deceased Farm Servant and Ann Mutch Nee Clark

married at 32 Low Street 12.6.1880 CofS

Mary Ross Domestic Servant of 32 Low Street, New Pitsligo d/o David Ross deceased, Ag. Lab and Ellen Philip widow of a Farm servant (nee Cordiner)

Witnesses Thomas Mackay and Ann Mutch

02 April 1935 - Aberdeen Journal - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Death
At 7 High Street, New Pitsligo, on 31st March, 1935, Mary Watt Ross, aged 74 years, wife of Alexander Mutch. Funeral on Wednesday, 3rd inst., at 2 p.m., to Turlundie Churchyard. All friends respectfully invited.


11 October 1941 - Aberdeen Journal - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Acknowledgment
MUTCH - The Family of the late Alexander Mutch, High Street, New Pitsligo, wish to thank all friends and neighbours for expressions of sympathy in their recent bereavement.

Chris :)

edits (below from google search)


Post number:
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5th of October 2013 05:28 PM
A great & interesting website.
I have a long family connection with New Pitsligo. My Grandmother Mina Mutch was born here in 1905. She is listed in the register of electors 1931, living at no 7 High Street, along with her parents & sister Bathia. Mina's parents Alexander Mutch & Mary Watt Ross are buried in New Pitsligo churchyard along with her maternal grandmother Helen Cordiner.

Mina's father Alexander was born here in 1859, his parents were Alexander Mutch & Ann Clark.
I am looking for a photo &/or information on the poorhouse that used to be in the village.

http://www.newpitsligo.org/guest_book.html

Fmp has no relationship for them.


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
North Street, Strichen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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Alexander Mutch Head Married Male 24 1857 Farm Servt Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary Mutch Wife Married Female 23 1858 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Elizabeth G Wood - Unmarried Female 5 1876 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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John L Mutch Son Unmarried Male 0 1881 - Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tillykeira Cotter House, Lonmay, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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Alexander Mutch Head Married Male 33 1858 Ag Lab Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary Mutch Wife Married Female 32 1859 Ag Labs Wife Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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John L Mutch Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Alexander Mutch Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary A Mutch Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Frederick G Mutch Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Bathia C Mutch Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Rathen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, School Street, Tyrie, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

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Alexander Mutch Head Married Male 41 1860 Farmservant Cattleman Worker New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Mary Mutch Wife Married Female 40 1861 - New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Bathia C Mutch Daughter - Female 11 1890 Scholar Rathen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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James R Mutch Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Robert T Mutch Son - Male 7 1894 Scholar Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Henry A Mutch Son - Male 2 1899 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland

just thinking that mary watt ross that the name watt dose not seem like a middle name could she have been born mary watt and her mother married a ross so took that name