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Name: Alexander Reid
Spouse's Name: Helen Bruce
Event Date: 18 Jul 1834
Event Place: Saint Nicholas,Aberdeen,Aberdeen,Scotland

NO children.....

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
43, Boyndie Street, Banff, Banffshire, Scotland


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts Head Widower Male 35 1816 Merchant Tailor Employing 7 Men Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Alexander Reid Brother-In-Law Married Male 40 1811 Shoemaker Journeyman Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Helen Reid - Married Female 42 1809 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
William Reid - - Male 12 1839 Scholar Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Peter Coutts Reid - - Male 2 1849 - Banff, Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
Helen Bruce - Widow Female 78 1773 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland

THIS matches the 1841 posted by rootgather for occupation, which is hardly likely to change

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Boyndie Street, Banff, Burgh of Banff, Banffshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts - Widower Male 44 1817 Tailor (Empg 8 Men & 3 Boys Fyvie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
John Coutts - - Male 7 1854 Scholar Banff, Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
Susan McHattie - Widow Female 83 1778 - - Transcription
Ann McHattie - Unmarried Female 40 1821 House Keeper Banff, Banffshire, Scotland Transcription

If PETER married SUSAN in 1852, that can't possibly be the right family in 1861.

please re-think, and check everything carefully.

Who are you actually connected to?

OOps Peter Coutts b 2 Aug 1816 and his father, John Coutts b March 1795. L

I am now very confused as friend and I have been going over information and have found a Jane Bruce christened 12 Jul 1819, Rathven, Banff, Scotland, her
parents James Bruce and Margaret Hay??????Yes I think Peter was a widower
when he married again 13 May 1852 Susan Machattie, Banff, Scotland. I
thought child Mary may have been born to Jane and Peter??
Peter Coutts, son of John Coutts, Surgeon and Margaret Smith - dob P 1795.

Hopefully one of you researchers will sort this out for me. Much appreciated thanks.
L

Peter Coutts
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 13 May 1852
Marriage Place: Banff,Banff,Scotland
Spouse: Susan Machattie
FHL Film Number: 0990816-8

Maybe the same Peter in 1861?

Peter Coutts
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Fyvie, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 147/1
Registration district: Banff Burgh
Civil Parish: Banff Burgh
Town: Banff
County: Banffshire
Address: 42 Boyndie St
Occupation: Tailor Empy 8 Men & 3 Boys
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 78
LINE: 18
Roll: CSSCT1861_21
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Coutts 44
John Coutts 7
Susan Mchattie 83 Mother in law
Ann Mchattie 40 Sister in law

No Jacqueline it wouldn't. That's why edited my post. I

If the census posted above are the correct family, is it the case then that his second wife was also called Jane?

I think this is the couple who married in Fraserburgh in 1840

1841

Piece: SCT1841/196 Place: Fraserburgh -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Fraserburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 2 Page: 26
Address: Commerce Street

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
COUTTS Peter M 25 Tailor Aberdeenshire
COUTTS Jean F 27 Aberdeenshire
GRAY Alexander M 16 Apprentice Tailor Aberdeenshire
FYVIE Elisa F 17 Female Servant, Aberdeenshire

Would that apply pre-civil registration, which didn't come into force in Scotland until 1855?

If Jane died in Scotland, her death registration will name both parents if the informant knew the details.

EDIT

Just notice that you say that Peter remarried in 1852. Do you think that Jane died before then?

Totally different occupation, so this may be a red herring, although Peter's birthplace......and Mary's...........tally with 1861

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Barrack Street, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts Head Married Male 36 1815 Journey Man Blacksmith Crathie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Jane J Coutts Wife Married Female 39 1812 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
John Coutts Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Blairgowrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Elisabeth Coutts Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Blairgowrie, Perthshire, Scotland Transcription
Mary Coutts Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Perth, Perthshire, Scotland

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Andrews Square, 11, St Andrews Glasgow, Calton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts Head Married Male 56 1815 Grocer & Provision Mercht Crathie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Jane Coutts Wife Married Female 56 1815 - Bridge of Allan, Stirlingshire, Scotland

I know this has been posted before, but this shows the year, plus the man's occupation

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Andrews Square, St Andrews, Calton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts Head Married Male 46 1815 Grocer & Victualar Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Jane Coutts Wife Married Female 46 1815 - Stirlingshire, Scotland Transcription
Mary Coutts Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Perth, Perthshire, Scotland

To find Jane's death, you will need to access Scotland's People website, for which one has to purchase credits.

Shirlingre must be Stirlingshire.

I can't work out where 'Lassier Shirlingre' is, as posted on the census above?


This is not too far from where she marriage



Name:Jane Bruce

Gender:Female

Birth Date:13 Feb 1817

Birth Place:Loth,Sutherland,Scotland

Father:
John Bruce

FHL Film Number:990575



Edit: The census that Susan posted is 1861 and has his wife as Jane. If Peter married again in 1851, was his second wife also called Jane?

Gins has already posted the other info I found ,not sure if it was the correct family.

Going out but will have another look later ,if nobody else finds anything in the meantime that is.

Sue :-)

Hi

There is this baptism, do you know if she had any siblings?




Name:Jane Bruce

Gender:Female

Baptism Date:10 Feb 1815

Baptism Place:
Saint Nicholas,Aberdeen,Aberdeen,Scotland

Father: George Bruce

Mother: Isabel Mcintosh

FHL Film Number:991137



Name:Jane Bruce

Gender:Female

Marriage Date:15 Nov 1840

Marriage Place:Fraserburgh,Aberdeen,Scotland

Spouse: Peter Coutts

FHL Film Number:993185


Who was Peter's second wife?