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Sorry, forgot to say that in Scotland female deaths are recorded in the index under both their married and maiden surnames.

If you search for a wife's death first, the entry will tell you if she is "married to" or "widow of" and that can narrow the search period for the husband's death.

When searching for the name Janet , it is best to select the forename variants option as Janet and Jessie were interchangeable in Scotland and it may be that in the case of a death that the informant always knew the deceased as Jessie rather than her "Sunday" name of Janet.

Statutory registration didn't begin until 1855 in Scotland so you won't get a birth certificate before then. The best you can hope for is a christening record.

For Scots born before 1855, if they married after 1855 then the marriage certificate will name both parents including the mother's maiden surname. Again for those born before 1855 but dying in Scotland after 1855, the death certificate will name all spouses, father's name and occupation and mother's name including her maiden surname if the informant knew the details.

So if you get Janet's marriage certificate it will name her mother. If you get her father's death certificate it will hopefully name all his spouses and his parents.

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Name: Robert Hamilton
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1831
Marriage Place: Hamilton,Lanark,Scotland
Spouse: Mary Smith
FHL Film Number: 1066594, 0102951
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I guess FMP/FS/SP all use the same transcription
Here's FreeCEN's transcription for 1851 - one advantage of FreeCEN is that it's easy to see adjacent h/h's, so if you were looking to buy the image from SP, you could check out someone else on the same page.

1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/647 Place: Hamilton -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Hamilton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Hamilton
Folio: 657 Page: 17 Schedule: 76
Address: 62 Quarry Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
DYKES William Head M M 66 Weaver Lanarkshire - Hamilton
DYKES Elisabeth Wife M F 46 Weavers Wife Lanarkshire - Hamilton
DYKES Janet Dau U F 10 Weavers Daughter Lanarkshire - Hamilton

SWEDY John Head M M 38 Mason Lanarkshire - Douglas
SWEDY Catherine Wife M F 24 Masons Wife Lanarkshire - Hamilton
SWEDY David Son U M 12 Masons Son Lanarkshire - Douglas
SWEDY John Son U M 8m Masons Son Lanarkshire - Hamilton
MCGINLY Mary Sislaw U F 16 Lace Tambourer Lanarkshire - Hamilton

SMITH David Head M M 35 Smith & General Jobber Lanarkshire - Glasgow
SMITH Ann Wife M F 33 Smiths Wife Lanarkshire - Hamilton
SMITH Thomas Son U M 5 Smiths Son Lanarkshire - Hamilton
SMITH James Son U M 17 Farmers Servant Lanarkshire - Hamilton
ALLAN John Lodger U M 26 Farmers Servant Lanarkshire - Hamilton

HAMILTON Thomas Head M M 29 Grocer & Baker Lanarkshire - Hamilton
HAMILTON Ann Wife M F 25 Grocers Wife Lanarkshire - Hamilton
Page: 657/18 HAMILTON Thomas Son U M 5 Scholar Lanarkshire - Hamilton
GARDENER Christina Servnt U F 21 House Servant Lanarkshire - Glasgow
SPARROW John Servnt W M 89 Gardener Lanarkshire - Hamilton

MCFARLINE David Head M M 39 Tailor & Clother Stirlingshire - Strathblane(Originally: Perth - Strathblane)
Page: 657/17 MCFARLINE Agnes Wife M F 46 Tailors Wife Renfrewshire - Paisley
MCFARLINE Agnes Dau U F 13 Tailors Daughter Lanarkshire - Glasgow
MCFARLINE James Son U M 7 Tailors Son Lanarkshire - Glasgow
MCFARLINE David Son U M 5 Tailors Son Lanarkshire - Glasgow
MCFARLINE Mary Dau U F 3 Tailors Daughter Lanarkshire - Hamilton

Thank you, from all the above information i can see that Robert Hamilton born in Lanarkshire 1801 was married to Mary (?)

Where might i find information on his parents?. Again following the same pattern i assume his father is also Robert Hamilton and born in Scotland too.

Any particular sites i should look at?

Adela

Again thank you for the information. I will need to purchase a birth certifiate in order to check if the mother was Elizabeth Reid (who i originally thought) or Elisabeth Brown.

This may be her parents marriage?? But if it is, William left it pretty late to marry for the first time.

I have included another marriage which may have been a first marriage for him. It is all guesswork though.




Name: William Dykes
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 20 Apr 1834
Marriage Place: Hamilton,Lanark,Scotland
Spouse: Elizabeth Reid
FHL Film Number: 1066594, 0102951



Name: William Dykes
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 6 Apr 1817
Marriage Place: Hamilton,Lanark,Scotland
Spouse: Elisabeth Brown
FHL Film Number: 1066593, 0102950



The gravestone of Elizabeth Brown Dykes. She appears to have died in 1825.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=143828553

1851 Census
3 Records found


Piece: SCT1851/647 Place: Hamilton -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Hamilton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Hamilton
Folio: 657 Page: 17 Schedule: 76
Address: 62 Quarry Street

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
DYKES William Head M M 66 Weaver Lanarkshire - Hamilton
DYKES Elisabeth Wife M F 46 Weavers Wife Lanarkshire - Hamilton
DYKES Janet Dau U F 10 Weavers Daughter Lanarkshire - Hamilton


from http://www.freecen.org.uk/

1851 for Janet.

Name: Janet Dykes
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Daughter (Child)
Father: William Dykes
Mother: Elisabeth Dykes
Gender: Female
Where born: Hamilton, Lanark
Parish Number: 647
Civil Parish: Hamilton
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Town: Hamilton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 62 Quarry St
Occupation: Weaver Daur
ED: 4A
Page: 17
Household schedule number: 76
LINE: 8
Roll: CSSCT1851_168
Household Members:
Name Age
William Dykes 66
Elisabeth Dykes 44
Janet Dykes 10

Can't see it on fmp and can't find the above 1901 for Robert on ancestry.

Can't see Janet Dykes in 1851 for clarification

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hamilton Lamb Street, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Robert Hamilton Male 35 1806 Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Mary Hamilton Female 30 1811 Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Robert Hamilton Male 8 1833 Lanarkshire, Scotland




1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sheilinghill Back House, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Hamilton Head Married Male 40 1831 Carter Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Janet Hamilton Wife Married Female 30 1841 Tambourer Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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James Hamilton Son Unmarried Male 14 1857 Coal Miner Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Robert Hamilton Son - Male 11 1860 Scholar Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Mary Hamilton Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Elizabeth Hamilton Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Agnes Hamilton Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland




1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
18, James Street, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Hamilton Head Married Male 51 1830 Carter Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Mary Hamilton Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1865 Factory Worker (Unemployed) Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Elizabeth Hamilton Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1867 Steam Loom Weaver Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Agnes Hamilton Daughter - Female 11 1870 Scholar Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Walter Hamilton Son - Male 9 1872 Scholar Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland




1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Simpson Street, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Hamilton Head Widower Male 60 1831 Colliery Labourer Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Walter Hamilton Son Unmarried Male 19 1872 Colliery Labourer Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Margaret Kelly Servant Widow Female 67 1824 House Keeper Glasgow




1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

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First name(s) Robert
Last name Hamilton
Relationship Lodger
Marital status Widower
Gender Male
Age 70
Birth year 1831
Occupation Carter
Birth town -
Birth county Lanarkshire
Birth county as transcribed LANARKSHIRE
Birth place Scotland
Birth place other as transcribed SCOTLAND
Other household member first name(s) -
Other household member last name -
Street -
Town Hamilton
Parish Hamilton
City -
Country Scotland
County Lanarkshire
Municipal ward -
Registration district Hamilton
Archive reference RG13

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Miller Street, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
William Dykes Male 50 1791 Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription
Elisabeth Dykes Female 35 1806 Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription
Janet Dykes Female 0 1841 Lanarkshire, Scotland

No guarantee that the couple she's living with are her parents

Relationships are not recorded on 1841 census

Where have you looked for siblings?

Where did you get the info about the parents?

In terms of Janet Dykes born 1841-Robert Hamilton's wife. I have her parents down as William Dykes 1785 and Elizabeth Reid 1805. But i cant find her siblings.

Any help?

Wow thank you! Lots more information to research and add to my tree. You have all been so helpful.

If his father is Robert and his mother Mary, this could be him in 1851:

Name:Robert Hamilton
Age:18
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1833
Relationship:Son (Child)
Father: Robert Hamilton
Mother: Mary Hamilton
Gender:Male
Where born:Hamilton, Lanark
Parish Number:647
Civil Parish:Hamilton

Address:14 Campbell St
Occupation:Carter

Robert Hamilton 50 , Weaver, b Hamilton
Mary Hamilton 40 b Hamilton
Robert Hamilton 18
Agness Hamilton 8 b Hamilton

Baptism of Robert & Janet's daughter:




Robert Hamilton

mentioned in the record of Mary Smith Hamilton

Name: Robert Hamilton
Gender: Male
Wife: Janet Dykes
Daughter: Mary Smith Hamilton

As she is possibly named after Robert's mother, I would guess that Smith was his MMN.

Northumberland and Durham Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) JANE
Last name GREENWELL
Marriage year 1796
Marriage day 04
Marriage month Oct
Place -
Groom's first name(s) William
Groom's last name Smurfitt
Groom's parish -
Bride's first name(s) Jane
Bride's last name Greenwell
Bride's parish -
Description Penshaw
County Durham
Country England
Record set Northumberland and Durham Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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John Smurthwaite senior has died by 1861, so the nearest the records get to his place of birth are Durham on the 1851 census and although the transcription says not in county 1841, I'm inclined to see the original as saying Yes to born in county.

As the possibility is that the first male child is John W, I'm wondering about this baptism for his father - ??

John Smurthwaite
England Births and Christenings
Name: John Smurthwaite
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 13 Dec 1812
Christening Place: HOUGHTON LE SPRING,DURHAM,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 28 Nov 1810
Father's Name: William Smurthwaite
Mother's Name: Jane Greenwell
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00047-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 91093

Thank you for all the above information, you have helped me very much. I will look through it all as i now have lots of new leads to explore.

Adela

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Name: Elizabeth Deer
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 12 Nov 1809
Christening Place: BISHOPWEARMOUTH,DURHAM,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joseph Deer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann Jaques
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00046-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 0091083, 0091084
Reference ID:



Citing this Record:
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5HQ-9Z5 : accessed 3 June 2015), Elizabeth Deer, 12 Nov 1809; citing BISHOPWEARMOUTH,DURHAM,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 91,083, 91,084.