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John Mummery - born ? - died 11-8-1865

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Jun 2015 10:58

Edward's father didn't die until 1923:

Deaths Dec 1923
Mummery Edward 94 Elham 2a 1323

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/16086166

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jun 2015 10:54

If you check out the 1861 census......Father Edward Mummery's occupation is Out Door Officer of Customs.

So going by the Probate I posted for John Mummery, it would seem it was Edward senior who was the son of John Mummery.


Edwd Mummery in the 1841 England Census
Name:Edwd Mummery
Age:11
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1830
Gender:Male
Where born:Kent, England
Civil Parish:Folkestone
Hundred:Folkestone
County/Island:Kent
Country:England
Street address:
Registration district:Elham
Sub-registration district:Folkestone




Household Members:

John Mummery 48
Ann Mummery 49
Thos Mummery 19
Edwd Mummery 11

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Jun 2015 10:48

Here's another from 26 June 1931 - Dover Express

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/16086079

Derek

Derek Report 9 Jun 2015 10:47

Many Thanks to all. I will now have a look at getting appropriate certificates to establish best match.

Derek

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Jun 2015 10:45

Here's Edward Mummery's obit, published 03 July 1931 - Dover Express. (I haven't included the long list of floral tributes).

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/16086060

Derek

Derek Report 9 Jun 2015 10:38

Wow. Thank you everyone. A lot to take in. So John was actually Edward .

Edward seems to have been passed down regularly in fact my father in law who died last year was also Edward as was his father and Grandfather. Could be a tradition of first born male heir being named Edward.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 9 Jun 2015 10:37


Deaths Dec 1922 (>99%)
Mummery Elizabeth C 69 Dover 2a 1240


There is no second name for the woman whose death was posted earlier

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jun 2015 10:35

John Mummery in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:John Mummery
Probate Date:17 Jan 1866
Death Date:11 Aug 1865
Death Place:Kent, England
Registry:Canterbury

Late of the parish of Folkstone in the County of Kent....Yeoman.

Proved at Canterbury by the oath of Edward Mummery of the Parish of aforesaid Officer of Her Majesty's Customs the Son of the Executors.

Effects: Under £300

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Jun 2015 10:34

Derek, Edward's wife Elizabeth Corsair Summers was born c1853 according to the marriage record.

Don't know if there's a mistranscription on the age on this death?

Deaths Sep 1923
MUMMERY Elizabeth 94 Dover 2a 1036

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 9 Jun 2015 10:32

Derek

PLEASE don't persist with this idea of Edward's being born in 1851.

LOOK at his age at death.................!

Nor was his father named JOHN................look at the census I posted at 10.21

BUY a copy of the 1865 death cert..........then you will have FACTS

Derek

Derek Report 9 Jun 2015 10:30

Havent a wife for John ?
Son Edward 1851/ 1931 was married to Elizabeth c Summers 1848 - 1923.

He had a daughter Susanna 1884 and a daughter ANNIE C 1894 - which might fall in with earlier suggestion ie name moved down generation/

Derek

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Jun 2015 10:29

The probate for Edward Mummery who died 1931 shows the names Edward and Susanna who appear to be his children.

This info ties in with census records for Edward Mummery married to Elizabeth, which would be this marriage.

Name: Edward Mummery
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1855
Marriage Date: 26 Oct 1878
Marriage Place: Folkestone, Kent, England
Father: Edward Mummery
Spouse: Elizabeth Corsair Summers, age 25, father Matthew Summers.
FHL Film Number: 1850121
Reference ID: 155

Note the name of Edward's father.

Thelma

Thelma Report 9 Jun 2015 10:28

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1861 England Census
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Name: Edward Mummery
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susanna Mummery
Gender: Male
Where born: Folkestone, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Folkestone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Eanswythe
Town: Folkestone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Folkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 551
Folio: 41
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Mummery 31
Susanna Mummery 28
Susanna B Mummery 10
Ann Mummery 7
Edward Mummery 6

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jun 2015 10:23

According to the death record Edward was born abt 1855

Edward Mummery in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Edward Mummery
Birth Date:abt 1855
Date of Registration:Jun 1931
Age at Death:76
Registration district:Dover
Inferred County:Kent
Volume:2a
Page:1371

Derek

Derek Report 9 Jun 2015 10:23

Dont know im affraid death date was left in father in laws notes when he died last year, so not sure where it came from. The only certainty is Edward my father in laws father,

Derek

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Jun 2015 10:21

Hello Derek, who was the mother of Edward Mummery?

Have you found any of them on census records?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 9 Jun 2015 10:21

Father's name NOT John

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
North Street, St Mary, Elham, Kent, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Mummery Head - Male 41 1830 - Kent, England Transcription
Susanna Mummery Wife - Female 39 1832 - Kent, England Transcription
Ann Mummery Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Kent, England Transcription
Edward Mummery Son - Male 16 1855 - Kent, England Transcription
Stephen Dunn Nephew - Male 14 1857 - Kent, England Transcription
Susanna Dunn Niece - Female 3 1868 - Kent, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 9 Jun 2015 10:20

Born when?????


Deaths Jun 1931 (>99%)
Mummery Edward 76 Dover 2a 1371

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 9 Jun 2015 10:16

His age will be on his death cert


Deaths Sep 1865 (>99%)
Mummery John Elham 2a 506

Derek

Derek Report 9 Jun 2015 10:11

I have been having some difficulty in tracing this man. I believe he lived in Folkestone / Dover area of Kent. I have definite information, he had at least one son Edward Mummery born 1851 and died 22/6/1931 also in Dover / Folkestone area.

Hope someone can elaborate .
Many Thanks in advance,

Derek