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24 Jul 2015 21:55 |
Thank you so much Chris Ho for the extra info, it's very much appreciated.
This is why baby John wasn't in the work house
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Mar 1871 (>99%) Dickerson John 0 Kettering 3b 137
Thanks again everyone
Chris
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24 Jul 2015 20:08 |
(looking at image of 1861, possible age for George 32?)
Deaths Dec 1870 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Dickinson George 41 Kettering 3b 118
22 October 1870 - Northampton Mercury - Northampton, Northamptonshire
Death October 15th, at Burton Latimer, George Dickinson, aged 41 years.
Deaths Mar 1871 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------- Dickerson Sarah 32 Kettering 3b 136
(going by below on Baptism of John posted)
Notes Both parents are stated to be deceased.
Births Mar 1871 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------- Dickenson John Kettering 3b 182
Chris :)
edits (below for FMP version as posted by Andy!)
1871 First name(s) Geo Last name Newton Relationship Inmate Archive reference RG10 Piece number 1502 Folio 119 Page 37
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24 Jul 2015 17:54 |
Thanks Jacqueline and Chris Ho for your replies.
I've not been able to see the record Jacqueline as Andy got it from Ancestry and I subscribe to FMP but it looks like John and Ann are not the correct family.
It looks like I will have to get George's marriage certificate, I was hoping I might have found it in the parish records on FMP
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24 Jul 2015 17:38 |
Baptism County Northamptonshire Place Kettering Church St Peter and St Paul RegisterNumber DateOfBirth 11 Jul 1868 BaptismDate 06 Apr 1871 Forename George Sex M FatherForename George MotherForename Sarah FatherSurname DICKERSON Abode Union Workhouse, Burton Latimer FatherOccupation Shoemaker
(if relating?, apologies if already added. From below link)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Baptism County Northamptonshire Place Kettering Church St Peter and St Paul RegisterNumber DateOfBirth 20 Feb 1871 BaptismDate 29 Mar 1871 Forename John Sex M FatherForename George MotherForename Sarah FatherSurname DICKERSON Abode Union Workhouse, Burton Latimer FatherOccupation Shoemaker Notes Both parents are stated to be deceased.
Baptism County Northamptonshire Place Kettering Church St Peter and St Paul RegisterNumber DateOfBirth 24 Dec 1863 BaptismDate 06 Apr 1871 Forename Annie Sex F FatherForename George MotherForename Sarah FatherSurname DICKERSON Abode Union Workhouse, Burton Latimer FatherOccupation Shoemaker
Baptism County Northamptonshire Place Kettering Church St Peter and St Paul RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 06 Apr 1871 Forename Ethel Sex F FatherForename George MotherForename Sarah FatherSurname DICKERSON Abode Union Workhouse, Burton Latimer FatherOccupation Shoemaker
Chris :)
(Annie Laura)
Baptism County Northamptonshire Place Wellingborough Church All Hallows RegisterNumber 734 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 19 Apr 1863 Forename Annie Laura Sex F FatherForename John MotherForename Ann FatherSurname DICKENSON Abode Spring Gardens FatherOccupation Shoemaker
edits (perhaps below)
1861 (Find My Past) George Dickenson Head Married Male 22 1839 Shoemaker Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Sarah Dickenson Wife Married Female 22 1839 - Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Henry Dickenson Son - Male 1 1860 - Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England William Patrick Brother In Law - Male 20 1841 Agricultural Labourer Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Parish Burton Latimer County Northamptonshire Registration district Kettering Enumeration district 2 Archive reference RG09 Piece number 955 Folio number 37 Page number 37
Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------- Dickinson George Kettering 3b 351 Patrick Jane Sarah Kettering 3b 351 Patrick Sarah Jane Kettering 3b 351
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Jacqueline
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24 Jul 2015 17:37 |
Don't be sidetracked by the birth records posted..................remember that until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering
ALSO
All three of the children were said to have been born in Burton Latimer, and the registration district for that town is KETTERING
Wellingborough births are not likely to have any relevance
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Jacqueline
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24 Jul 2015 17:08 |
There is not likely to be anything in the 1871 census in the workhouse to say that the children whose surnames happened to be the same were actually related to each other, although they are listed consecutively
Have you looked at the record?
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Chrissie2394
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24 Jul 2015 16:41 |
Thanks for the extra info malyon.
Can someone please clarify something for me.
In the 1871 census Andy found George was with his sisters Annie 5 years and Ethel 2 years, this would make Annie's birth 1865/66. The baptism malyon found has Annie's baptism as 1863 - parents John and Ann, presumably this birth relates
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Mar 1863 (>99%) DICKENSON Annie Laura Wellingbro 3b 156
I've searched the 1871 census for a John and Ann as they married in 1860 and the only one I can find is this one
Well Street, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England John Dickenson Head - Male 46 1825 - Northamptonshire, England Ann Dickenson Wife - Female 44 1827 - Northamptonshire, England Emily M Dickenson Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Northamptonshire, England Annie L Dickenson Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Northamptonshire, England Alfred L Dickenson Son - Male 6 1865 - Northamptonshire, England Harry E Dickenson Son - Male 3 1868 - Northamptonshire, England
Is this the same family I can only find one birth registration for an Annie Dickenson/Dickinson/Dickerson for the relevant years. I'm getting the feeling it's not George's parents.
Thanks in advance if any one would like to take a look.
Chris
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malyon
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20 Jul 2015 23:08 |
george is in workhouse in 1881
George DICKERSON 12 M Inmate Scholar Burton Latimer, Northampton
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malyon
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19 Jul 2015 22:54 |
georges's sister
Births Mar 1866 (>99%) Dickenson Ethel Wellingbro' 3b 150
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19 Jul 2015 22:50 |
children in the workhouse annie and ethel were born in wellingbourgh not far from kettering
Annie Laura Dickenson England Births and Christenings Name: Annie Laura Dickenson Gender: Female Christening Date: 19 Apr 1863 Christening Place: Wellingborough, Northampton, England Father's Name: John Dickenson Mother's Name: Ann
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19 Jul 2015 22:44 |
Doris, Lily and Annie were all baptised on the same day.
Lily May was actually registered as May Lily in the birth records but the names were reversed on the baptism.
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19 Jul 2015 22:38 |
looks like a twin sister of doris emma
George Dickenson mentioned in the record of Annie Ethel Dickenson Name: George Dickenson Gender: Male Wife: Emma Dickenson Daughter: Annie Ethel Dickenson Other information in the record of Annie Ethel Dickenson from England Births and Christenings Name: Annie Ethel Dickenson Gender: Female Christening Date: 02 Feb 1902 Christening Place: Kettering, Northampton, England Father's Name: George Dickenson Mother's Name: Emma Dickenson
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Chrissie2394
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19 Jul 2015 22:34 |
Thank you malyon I hadn't got that baptism but I have got the baptism for his three other daughters, Annie, Lily and Doris. One other child died which I have yet to find.
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19 Jul 2015 22:32 |
From Ancestry, yes
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19 Jul 2015 22:31 |
INT SOURCE BOX SHARE George Dickenson mentioned in the record of Doris Emma Dickenson Name: George Dickenson Gender: Male Wife: Emma Dickenson Daughter: Doris Emma Dickenson Other information in the record of Doris Emma Dickenson from England Births and Christenings Name: Doris Emma Dickenson Gender: Female Christening Date: 02 Feb 1902 Christening Place: Kettering, Northampton, England Father's Name: George Dickenson Mother's Name: Emma Dickenson
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19 Jul 2015 22:31 |
George Dickinson mentioned in the record of Ivy Ada Dickinson Name: George Dickinson gender: Male Wife: Emma Dickinson Daughter: Ivy Ada Dickinson Other information in the record of Ivy Ada Dickinson from England Births and Christenings Name: Ivy Ada Dickinson Gender: Female Christening Date: 08 Sep 1905 Christening Place: Kettering, Northampton, England Father's Name: George Dickinson Mother's Name: Emma Dickinson
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19 Jul 2015 22:27 |
George Dickinson England and Wales Marriage Registration Index Name: George Dickinson Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1895 Registration District: Kettering County: Northamptonshire Event Place: Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Volume: 3B Page: 380 Line Number: 267 George Dickinson probably married one of the following people Name: Harry Clarke Name: Emma Robinson Name: Elizabeth Annie Tilley
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19 Jul 2015 22:26 |
Thank you so much Andrew, looks like you have found him. Was that from Ancestry.
Chris
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19 Jul 2015 22:24 |
Thank you Andy and malyon for your replies too.
I've checked FMP for 1871 but there's no Dickenson/Dickinson at all allowing for 10 years either side his birth year.
Chris
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19 Jul 2015 22:21 |
1871? In the Workhouse with siblings?
Name: Geo Dickinson Age:2 Estimated birth year:abt 1869 Relation:Inmate (Institutional) Gender:Male Where born:Burton Latt, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish:Kettering Town:Kettering County/Island:Northamptonshire Country:England Registration district:Kettering Sub-registration district:Kettering ED, institution, or vessel:6 Household schedule number:204 Piece:1502 Folio:119 Page Number:37
Annie Dickinson 5 Ethel Dickinson 4 Geo Dickinson 2
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