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im thinking that the way to go there only one grace wall that i can see. yes they are twins grace and jane. there is a long story behind this family ..... thanks again

im thinking that the way to go there only one grace wall that i can see. yes they are twins grace and jane. there is a long story behind this family ..... thanks again

Thomas Wall
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 9 January 1842 St. Peter, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
residence: Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
father: George Wall
mother: Anna

I see they are twins so was this the Mary Jane birth cert index that you got the cert from?
Births
Dec quarter 1870
WALL Grace Aston 6d 243
WALL Mary Jane Aston 6d 243

Would it help to confirm the right parents by getting Grace's birth cert? Perhaps this one?
GRACE
Last name
WALL
Birth year
1870
Birth quarter
4
District
ASTON
County
Warwickshire
Country
England
Volume 6D
Page 243
Record set
England & Wales births 1837-2006

Well they were married by 1871. Looks like they married in the 1860's going on the eldest child birth year

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Trinity Street, Lower Court House, Aston, Warwickshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Wall Head - Male 29 1842 - Staffordshire, England Transcription
Mary Wall Wife - Female 33 1838 - Staffordshire, England Transcription
Sarah Wall Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Staffordshire, England Transcription
Mary J Wall Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Staffordshire, England Transcription
Grace Wall Daughter - Female 0. 1871 - Satffordshire

sarah married albert phillips 1893 at st john the baptist deritend. they lived in allcock strreet in 1901 census and sarah died the end of that year .. she had two children celia and albert, her dad was named as thomas. her birth date is 1874 however. her dad thomas lived in the street with other daughter mary jane 1870 . .on a previous census sarah was with thomas , mary and mary jane and grace 1870.i but sarahis down as 1868 born. however i havegot sarah death certifcateand it wasdecleared by grace as albert was away in duke of cornwall which is also on death certificate . thoas is hinge fitter and born in tethanell staffs

Kath, can I just ask about Sarah? It's vital you pin down the right one, so it might be an idea to go back a bit.
Do you have her marriage cert? If so, please give all details - husband, father, witnesses, any addresses or occupations.
Jan

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Name Mary Ann Wall
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1909
Registration District Aston
County Warwickshire
Event Place Aston, Warwickshire, England
Age (available after 1866) 84
Birth Year (Estimated) 1825
Volume 6D
Page 223
Line Number 36

i am trying to find a marriage of a thomas wall 1842 to a mary ann collins . they were in liverpool street aston in 1868 as i have a copy of their daughter sarah birth certificate. thoas was born in tethanell staffordshire . mary in birmingham staffordshire which is on 1871 census in birmingham.
we have always though sarah mom as mary ann mansell so not sure wether ive got right birth certificate . thanks