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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5 Garrett St Miles Platting, North Manchester, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Samuel Oakes Head Married Male Telephone Wire Man 42 1869 Manchester Lancs
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Mary Oakes Wife Married Female Cop Reeler 42 1869 Manchester Lancs

Thank you all for all this. I hadn't considered Prestwich, as being too far north in Manchester / Lancashire, but the address in Miles Platting is much more industrial and further south and east than Prestwich. I'm pursuing Samuel J as likely, with his son away on Census day 1901.

Hugh

Further information: Why did I consider Birmingham? Because on the 1914 marriage certificate, John Oakes is a Solid Tyre Builder and Samuel Oakes is (or was) a Vulcaniser. Manchester and Aston/Birmingham both had substantial rubber tyre works in 1914.
Also, a correction, the first child was born in 1915, not 1914 - John Ralph Oakes, Chorlton. By 1939 he was also in the rubber trade, as a rubber spreader.

Hugh

That looks goodto fit the occupation safc

Dea x

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Garratt Street, North Manchester, Prestwich, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel J Oakes Head Married Male 33 1868 Rubber Worker Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Mary Oakes Wife Married Female 33 1868 Cotton Reeler Manchester, Lancashire, England
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William Molloy Cousin Single Male 20 1881 Machinist (Under Clothing Etc) Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Hugh Molloy Uncle Widower Male 61 1840 Tailor Ireland



Vulcaniser - definition of vulcaniser by The Free Dictionary
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Noun, 1. vulcaniser - someone who vulcanizes rubber to improve its strength and resiliency. vulcanizer · skilled worker, skilled workman, trained worker - a ...

could be him 1901 census


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jane Oakes Head Widow Female 70 1831 - Buglawton, Cheshire, England Transcription
John Oakes Grand Son Single Male 8 1893 - Cheshire, England

there is this one 1911 but age is out

Name: John Oakes
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hulme, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 30 Ogden St Hulme
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Chorlton ------------------------
Registration District Number: 464
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Piece: 23900
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Oakes 40
John Oakes 15
Samuel Oakes 13
Fredrick Oakes 9
Nelly Oakes 7
Ogle 37

1901
Name: John H Oakes
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Samuel Oakes
Mother: Nelly Oakes
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
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Ecclesiastical parish: Hulme St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Employment status:

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Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
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Piece: 3705
Folio: 106
Page Number: 37
Household schedule number: 219
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Oakes 30
Nelly Oakes 29
Lily A Oakes 7
John H Oakes 5
Samuel Oakes 3

I have it:

Marriage: 10 Oct 1914 Houghton Memorial, Ardwick, Lancashire, England
John Oakes - 21, Solid Type Builder, Bachelor, 56 Blackthorn St.
Alice Prestage - 23, Spinster, 54 Blackthorn St.
Groom's Father: Samuel Oakes, Vulcanizer
Bride's Father: Ralph Prestage, Carter
Witness: Edwin Jones; Mary Prestage
Married by Banns by: Samuel Sidebotham Rector
Register: Marriages 1914 - 1915, Page 16, Entry 32
Source: Original Register

Dea x

What are the occupations of John and his father please?

Dea x

I have the marriage cert for John Oakes, age 21 in October 1914. Father Samuel, but no Oakes witness to the marriage (?deceased). Marriage at new church in Manchester (Houghton Memorial/St Jerome's), John and bride Alice Prestage married from ?temporary addresses next door to one another. No likely John Oakes 1893 in 1911 Census for Manchester/ Chorlton. There are far too many Oakes in Cheshire/Lancashire, and a strong possible from numerous Oakes in Aston, Birmingham. The Birmingham possible is John Frederick Oakes, father John Samuel Oakes, down as John in Census.

John and Alice has several children (presumably, all Oakes mother Prestage) from 1914 to 1922. What's my next step? Do I get the birth certificate of one or more of the children, to get more information about John Oakes 1893. How much information would there be in 1914?

This enquiry on behalf of a friend trying to trace her male line back.

Hugh Wolfson