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Didn't notice House was in the next column, just it was in brackets. Anyway, some of the baptisms say 'Bird Stuffer', so a Taxidermist.

Elsie

Name: Elsie Lilian Bushall
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1899
Father's name: Edward Bushall
Mother's name: Sarah Bushall
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clapton Park All Saints
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

on the same day
Grace Adeline
Cicely Gladys
41 Pestling? St.
Father a bird stuffer :-D

Elsie's marriage
Name: Elsie Lilian Bushell
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Age: 22
Spouse: George William Joseph Miller - Sailor
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1919
Parish: All Saints, Clapton Park
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Edward Charles Bushell - Painter
Spouse Father: Joseph Miller
Register Type: Parish Register

Residences - H MS Aecla? Chatham & 58 Lockhurst St
Witnesses Mr E C Bushell & James Terry

DET ..........

teh 1911 said father was a Painter, but House was written in the next column.

The marriage certificates just say "Painter"


To me, a Naturalist would mean someone who did botany and zoology, plus probably geology,

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Grace Adeline Bushell
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Age: 19
Spouse: Thomas Knight
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Aug 1915
Parish: All Saints, Clapton Park
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Edward Charles Bushell
Spouse Father: David Knight
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses:- Robert Henry Grout and Elsie Bushell

Address:- 33 Presbury Street


Possibility that Grace later married ..........

1. William James Terry in 1919

2. Albert Ernest Parkin in 1927



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Elsie Lilian Bushell
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Age: 22
Spouse: George William Joseph Miller
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1919
Parish: All Saints, Clapton Park
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Edward Charles Bushell
Spouse Father: Joseph Miller
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses:- (signatures hard to read) ?? Mr T C Bushell and James Temp (Trump?)

Elsie's address:- (hard to read) 58 (something)hurst Street

Dorothy's baptism
Name: Dorothy Amy Bushell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 12 Jul 1893
Father's name: Edward Charles Bushell
Mother's name: Sarah Ada Bushell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clapton Park All Saints
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

6 Pedro St. Father a Naturalist?? Might that be a still-life painter?

????? possible marriages of siblings


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Dorothy Amy Bushell
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Age: 19
Spouse: Robert Henry Grout
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 May 1913
Parish: All Saints, Clapton Park
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Edward Charles Bushell
Spouse Father: William Grout
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses:- Leonard Charles Bushell and Beatrice Bushell


Dorothy's address:- 33 Presbury Street

One Public Family Tree has another child for Beatrice, no father shown

Jack Henry Bushell born 28 Dec 1914 in London; died Mar 2007 in Bromley, Kent

It says he married Alice Flinn (1916-1993), and had 2 children


????? if true

Name Age
Edward C Bushell 42 b.ca 1869, London, House Painter
Sarah A Bushell 45 b.ca 1866, Battisford, Suffolk, Charwoman
Beatrice Bushell 19
Dorothy Bushell 17 b.ca 1894, London, Laundry
Grace Bushell 15 b.ca 1896, London, Laundry
Elsie Bushell 13 b.ca 1898, London
Cissiley Bushell 11 b.ca 1900, London
Leonard Bushell 9 b.ca 1902, London

Married 20 years, 8 children born, 2 died


"One hand short" is written in the last column for Beatrice, but then was crossed out in red pen/pencil

Ancestry managed to lose the census for a while!

1901 - similar to the 1911
Name: Beatrice Bushell
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Sister < Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Clapton, London, England
Civil Parish: Hackney
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Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls Clapton
County/Island: London
Country: England
Edward Bushell 35 - 1866, Homerton - House painter
Ada Bushell 36 - 1865 - Suffolk
Dorothy Bushell 7 - 1894 - Clapton
Grace Bushell 5 - 1896 - Clapton
Elsie Bushell 3 - 1898 - Clapton
Cicely Bushell 6/12 - 1899 - Clapton
Beatrice Bushell 10

???

1911 Census

Name: Beatrice Bushell
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: St John-at-Hackney
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 207 Glyn Road, Clapton Park
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Hackney
Registration District Number: 11
Sub-registration district: Central Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 1093
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward C Bushell 42
Sarah A Bushell 45
Beatrice Bushell 19
Dorothy Bushell 17
Grace Bushell 15
Elsie Bushell 13
Cissiley Bushell 11
Leonard Bushell 9



Dorothy, Grace and Elsie match the siblings in the Workhouse

snap DET!!

?????????????

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930

Name: Beatrice Elizabeth Bushell
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1891
Discharge Date: 20 Sep 1902
Record Type: Discharge
Borough: Hackney
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney
Title: Workhouses and Institutions, 1900-1904

from image:-

Address:- Sidney Road Children's Homes
Discharged ............... along with siblings??
Discharged with Mother, no address

Other names and birth dates

Dorothy Amy Bushell 18-6-93
Grace Adelaine " 16-12-95
Elsie Lilian " 12-09-97

Not spotting anything on Ancestry - probably mis-transcribed - but there are these

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
Name: Beatrice Elizth Bushell
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1891
Admission Age: 11
Admission Date: 18 Jul 1902
Record Type: Admission
Borough: Hackney
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney
Place: London, England
Title: Workhouses and Institutions, 1900-1904

From the image
Siblings
Dorothy Ada b25 Jun 1893
Grace Adeline b 16 Dec 1895
Elsie Lillian b12 Sep 1897

Mother Sarah Ann Bushell – Hackney Union Infirmary
Father unknown
...............

Name: Beatrice Elizabeth Bushell
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1891
Discharge Date: 20 Sep 1902
Record Type: Discharge
Borough: Hackney
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney
Title: Workhouses and Institutions, 1900-1904

She and her siblings Discharged with their mother - no address

I got Harold James Bushell's birth cert, born 18th Aug 1923, South Hackney, his mother Beatrice Elizabeth Bushell, no father named. Trying to find Beatrice now...Could someone please look her up on census 1901 1911 to find family? found a match born in 1891, Hackney with parents Edward Bushell and wife Sarah Ada Huxell? could someone please confirm who she was living with in 1901 and 1911?
As I am guessing again.

Thanks JoonieCloonie for your reply, I agree with you about living person's having to apply themselves, I hadn't given it much thought up until now but I wouldn't want any Tom,Dick or Harry having a copy of my birth cert. So I will leave it to my friend if she wants to apply for her birth cert, unlikely though...have searched so many friends and family over the years and still waiting to find one who is as interested in their own family as I am, especially when in comes to spending money!!!
As for the search for Harold James Bushell (my neighbour's Grandfather) I will have to give that one up, if I mentioned DNA, she would really think I had lost the plot.
I love searching but it can be so frustrating sometimes.

ah, I hadn't paid attention to the part where you said 1968-70 so that must have been it - and somebody at the GRO pulled up the wrong form letter? :-)

yes, for a birth less than 50 years ago they require details like exact date of birth, parents' names, etc, I believe. Personally I have always thought birth certs for living people should be issued only to the person themself (parent if a child) ... but yes, your friend could apply herself in that case anyway.

meanwhile do let us know if you get Harold's birth certificate and we can help

we don't know what relation you are to him ... but if he has living children or grandchildren, especially in the male line, DNA testing might turn up cousins in one or both parents' families and possibly even a lead on his father's surname.

Thanks for the info, I have never asked for a cert for a living person before. That makes sense as to why I have not received the birth cert... but why not say that GRO??? I could quite easily provide any info or indeed get my friend to apply for her own birth cert...

if the person was born in the last 50 years no certificate will be issued without detailed identifying info - could that be it even though they gave a different reason?

it's always wise to check the image of the GRO index page to make sure nothing has been mistranscribed at your source, too

I guess I would have asked the GRO to check their index and see what the problem was ;)

Thanks for all your replies, as I thought, it is a hard task to find his parents. I will get the birth cert to see any info on the mother.
Going off track a bit, I mentioned the trouble I had with the GRO before, I requested a birth cert of a friend I found on FreeBMD with all the relevant info I found on screen.
After inquiring why I had received a refund and not the copy of the birth cert, I got this reply..
The details you provided did not fully match any potential entries located during a three year search between 1968-1970. Please check the details again (below).
Well I did check the details and they are still there as of today.???
I had a conversation with Londonbelle about this at the time and neither of us could come up with a reason why I could not get a copy of the birth cert.
Has anyone else had problems like this?

It's unlikely you will find out who his dad was, unless his baptism gives the info. Some priests asked the mum who was the father and recorded it on the baptism record

As others have said you need to buy his birth cert to see who his mum was ,you may then find her on the 1911 census and earlier to see who her family info