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Reference: ADM 188/103/94053
Description: Name Miller, Charles
Official Number: 94053
Place of Birth: Chatham, Kent
Date of Birth: 11 July 1859
Date: [1875-1876]
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6625044

It looks like his record runs to 1898- which fits with the 1901 census where he states retired:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
21, Lester Road, Chatham, Medway, Kent, England

Charles Miller Head Married Male 41 1860 Chief Yeoman Of Signals R N (Retired) Chatham,
Sarah J Miller Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Woolwich, Kent, England
Vincent C E Miller Son - Male 3 1898 - Chatham, Kent, England

NOTE: Charles Miller is registered on the 1901 as Blind and on the 1911 he is registered as 'totally blind- 11 years'
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how do i track down military naval record for Charles Miller was wondering where he served and if he served with a Arthur Stevens

As you most probably know, you do now. Looking quickly I can't see anything on google to say either way as to what was required in 1906. You would have thought a marriage certificate would be required if Mother was registering it on her own but in a married name. If they were unmarried but both were to be on Certificate then both needed to attend the registration.

does anyone Know did you have to have ID in 1906 ?

Edith Stevens Mother 21 Leonard road Landport
registerd April 1906

Phew! I'm pleased we have that sorted.

I thought I might have to pop down to Specsavers!! :-D

Louise, just out of a matter of interest who was the Informant on Maisie's Birth Certificate?

Sorry, Prickly I should have put some punctuation in! I meant that I thought that Maisie had witnessed the Marriage and that her name had been mistranscribed as Luise so that it should have read Maisie Stevens Miller.

just looked at Auntie Kaths marriage certificate i can confirrm that Maisie witnessed it, she did her Ms like that with line at front but i have never seen her sign or use the Stevens before.
Thanks

http://tinyurl.com/qjk2ufl

(image of 1929 Marriage above, from below, also useful for Kent)

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=%2FZ4a_Medway_Ancestors%2F%0A&SearchWords&DateList

Chris :)

Yes I realise that Belle

You posted that you were wondering whether the second witness of the Marriage was in fact Maisie and has been mistranscribed as Kathleen. :-)

As far as I can see........the second witness is Lusie Stevens Miller.

Prickly, Kathleen Vincent Miller was the Bride, Maisie's step sister.

and the plot thickens......
the other side of the family come from Dover Maisies husband.
continuing thanks to all
i have been looking for leads, the birth certificate states Edith Stevens formerly Blackman but with no marriage cert. there is nothing to go on.
Did you need ID in 1906 when registering a birth?
I too was looking for a death in1906c that might explain adoption but have come up with nothing.
the name Maisie is not particularly common and i thought it may have been passed on but can not find a Maisie Blackman or Maisie Stevens i have tried various combinations with Crowley but to no avail. neither Arthur on Edith or Maisie are names linked to any descendants Rebbecca Crowley is 1of 9 siblings all in portsea.
thanks again everyone

I can't see a witness "Kathleen" on the marriage that Chris posted?

I wonder who the witness.... Lusie "Stevens" Miller is?

Probably not related as a too late for the birth of Maisie, but I did wonder what the rumours were!

Dover Express 26 April 1907
NOTICE!
On behalf of the family of Miss Edith Blackman, a barmaid, at present in the Royal Victoria Hospital, we have to refute the statement now being circulated regarding the cause of her illness.
There is no truth whatever in the story in circulation.
We beg to give notice that such proceedings as the law allows will be taken against any person further repeating or publishing the slander.
ARTHUR BLACKMAN
WILLIAM BLACKMAN
Dover 25th April 1907
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And possibly her death a couple of months later?

Dover Express 05 July 1907

DEATHS:- BLACKMAN, On June 30th, at 7 Douglas Road, Edith Adelaide Blackman, aged 22 years.

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription

First name(s) Maisie
Last name Miller
Birth year 1906
Birth date 23 Mar 1906
Event year 1911
School name Byron Road School (infants)
Town Gillingham
County Kent
Country England
Parent name(s) Charles Miller (5 Ivy Road)
Book type Admissions
Archive reference C/ES/153/7/17
Archive Medway Archives
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914

I'm wondering whether the second witness of the Marriage above is in fact Maisie and has been mistranscribed as Kathleen & Maisie were very close in age

Baptism
County Kent
Place Rochester
Church name St Margaret of Antioch
Register type PR
Register entry number 2128
Baptism date 24 Aug 1879
Person forename Edith Eliza
Person abode 25 Morden Street
Father forename James Joseph
Father surname BLACKMAN
Father occupation Mariner
Mother forename Maria


(above, from below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

Baptism
County Kent
Place Chatham
Church name St Mary the Virgin
Register type AT
Register entry number 474
Baptism date 01 Mar 1898
Person forename Vincent Charles Edward
Person sex M
Person abode 4 Clover St, Chatham
Father forename Charles
Father surname MILLER
Father occupation Seaman
Mother forename Sarah Jane
Notes Cityark image 00050251


Baptism
County Kent
Place Chatham
Church name St Mary the Virgin
Register type AT
Register entry number 1036
Baptism date 13 Oct 1902
Person forename Kathleen Vincent
Person sex F
Person abode 21 Lester Road
Father forename Charles
Father surname MILLER
Father occupation Pensioner R.N.
Mother forename Sarah Jane
Notes Cityark image 00050286


County Kent
Place Gillingham
Church name St Augustine
Register type
Register entry number 183
Marriage date 21 Dec 1929
Groom forename Kenneth
Groom surname GORDON
Groom age 25
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode 141 Sarton? St Gillingham
Groom occupation Ordinance Artificer R.N
Bride forename Kathleen Vincent
Bride surname MILLER
Bride age 27
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 5 Ivy Road Gillingham
Bride occupation School Teacher
Groom father forename Ernest Augustus
Groom father surname GORDON
Groom father occupation R.E. (Retired)
Bride father forename Charles
Bride father surname MILLER
Bride father occupation R.N.
Witness1 forename * A
Witness1 surname GORDON
Witness2 forename Lusie Stevens
Witness2 surname MILLER
Notes Third witness was V Nuth. Both signed. Married after Banns. Bride's father was deceased

(witness above, not sure?)

edits

Baptism
County Kent
Place Gillingham
Church name St Augustine
Register type
Register entry number 350
Baptism date 5 Dec 1921
Birth date 23 Mar 1905
Person forename Maisie
Person sex F
Person abode 5 Ivy Road
Father forename Charles
Father surname MILLER
Father occupation Yeoman of Signals
Mother forename Sarah Jane


(worth a check in 'Search All Member Trees' (under 'Search' top right of page here) you could well find other Members sharing some names)

Very frustrating for you Louise!


Prickles.

thank you everyone,i guess there is no way of ever knowing after years of speculating the whole portsmouh medway connection or the naval link i was really hoping the names on the full certificate where going to answer some questions.
i know Charles Miller was born in chatham wasChief Fisman Of Signals R N and registered blind at some point, 1 of five children all born Chatham his mother also from Chatham
married 1895 to Sarah jane Vincent 1of seven children born in Woolwich as were all but the second oldest who was born in Portsmouth. her mother came from Portsmouth
in1851 census Mary ann Heath is visiting from portsmouth
in1861 census Rebecca Crowley mother from portsmouth i
But Sarah Jane was not born until 1869.
and i have just really confused myself
i dont have access to census records at the moment and apparently my notes now dont make sense to me. ahhhhhh