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12 Dec 2015 22:49 |
HBH was born in April 1839 and married my ancestor on 25th May 1889 in Nainital, India. He died in 1914 in Petersfield, Hampshire. PLEASE don't waste your valuable time researching him; we really do know all about him!!! I don't want to be accused of repetition.
We know that he had at least one sister, JANE ELIZA HANNA. She is mentioned in another of my posts as the wife of the Reverend David Rutton Morris.
We have a lot of fascinating handwritten information about HBH and also the handwritten journal of his sister as the wife of the Vicar in Montego Bay, Jamaica.
But - and this is what I am searching for now - we have now come across a reference to a "Mr. Hanna" in 1889 in connection with my above relation HBH who was in fact a COLONEL in the Indian Army. So HBH seems to have had at least one brother without rank employed in the Raj years out in India.
I have tried to find siblings for HBH other than the known sister Jane but have got stuck. :-(
Can you help, please?
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12 Dec 2015 22:54 |
Sorry, I should have added that we know that HBH had one brother Stewart but we can't trace him forward and wonder whether he didn't survive??
Can you see any others?
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12 Dec 2015 23:04 |
COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree Henry B Hanna England and Wales Census, 1841 Name Henry B Hanna Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place Steep, Hampshire, England Residence Note Dunhill Cottage Gender Male Age 2 Age (Original) 2 Birth Year (Estimated) 1839 Birthplace Hampshire Registration District Petersfield Book Number 5 Parish Steep County Hampshire Page Number 8 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 396/7 Affiliate Record Type Household HOUSEHOLD
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Frances Cathe Hanna F 25-29 Jane Eliza Hanna F 8 Stewart Geo Hanna M 7 Julian Hanna M 3 Hampshire Henry B Hanna M 2 Hampshire - Hanna M 2 months Hampshire Harriet Wells F 35-39 Hampshire Sarah Philps F 20-24 Hampshire Sarah Knight M 12 Henry Bridle M 14 Hampshire
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12 Dec 2015 23:13 |
From 1851 census.
Don't know if this is your family. Has a Jane E and Stewart.
Name:Stewart W Hanna Age:46 Estimated birth year:abt 1805 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Frances E Hanna Gender:Male Where born:Ireland Civil Parish:St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island:Middlesex Country:England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district:Marylebone Sub-registration district:Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel:17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number:79 Piece:1490 Folio:739 Page Number:20 Household Members: Name Age
Stewart W Hanna 46 born Ireland, Incumbent of St James Marylebone Frances E Hanna 31 born Ireland Jane E Hanna 18 Born Jamacia Stewart G Hanna 17 born Jamacia Minnie Hanna 5 Born London Sarah J Edwin 23 Emma Edwin 19 Andy
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12 Dec 2015 23:21 |
Other siblings?
Name:Stewart William Hanna Gender:Male Spouse: Frances Catherine Hanna Child:Rhoda Catherine Georgiana Hanna
Name:Stewart William Hanna Gender:Male Spouse: Frances Catherine Hanna Child: Edith Frances Margaret Hanna
Andy
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12 Dec 2015 23:23 |
Name:Rhoda Hanna Age:10 Estimated birth year:abt 1841 Relation:Visitor Gender:Female Where born:Steep, Hampshire, England Civil Parish:East Stratton Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island:Hampshire Country:England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district:Winchester Sub-registration district:Mitcheldever ED, institution, or vessel:5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number:2 Piece:1673 Page Number:1 Household Members: Name Age
Charles R H Dallas 56 Curate born Jamacia Julian M Dallas 57 Georgiana M S Dallas 20 Harriet C Thompson 72 Margaret S Percy 49 Henrietta G Whitchorn 23 >>>>> Rhoda Hanna 10 >>>>> Edith Hanna 9 Carolin Genge 25 Eliza Sammer 20 Harriet Summer 10
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Nicola'S
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12 Dec 2015 23:26 |
Malyon, thank you and that is so revealing - but what is the actual record, please? Oh, drrrrrrr, I now see that it is the 1841 census. So there were certainly TWO elder brothers, Julian and Stewart, and one unnamed younger one.
Can anyone follow these three brothers of our chap forward, please? Can we get any of them to be the one mentioned out in India in 1889 written account??
Andrew, yes that is 'my' family.
Got to hit the hay now, till tomorrow. :-)
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12 Dec 2015 23:26 |
Name:Julian Hanna Record Type:Baptism Baptism Date:23 Jun 1851 Father's name:Stewart William Hann Mother's name:Frances Catherine Hanna Parish or Poor Law Union:St Dunstan in the West Borough:City of London Register Type:Parish Registers
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12 Dec 2015 23:30 |
This is Henry
Name: Henry Bethina Hanna
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Jun 1851
Father's name: Stewart William Hanna
Mother's name: Frances Catherine Hanna
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Dunstan in the West
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers
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12 Dec 2015 23:42 |
There is this death:-
First name(s) STEWART WILLIAM Last name HANNA Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year - Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1851 District MARYLEBONE County London Volume 1 Page 156 Country England
and this burial:-
First name(s) Stewart William Last name Hanna Gender Male Marital status - Occupation - Event year 1851 Birth year - Age at death - Burial year 1851 Burial date 07 Jun 1851 Burial place Wonston, Hampshire, England Place Wonston County Hampshire Country England
There is also this death:-
First name(s) Stewart Last name Hanna Birth year 1825 Death date 02 Jul 1893 Death year 1893 Age 68 Burial date 03 Jul 1893 Place Naini Tal Civil Presidency Bengal Archive Reference N-1-232 Folio - Page 168 Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948 Record set British India Office deaths & burials
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13 Dec 2015 00:26 |
Parents Stewart William Hanna and Frances O.
Jane Eliza Hanna Baptism:- 1834 9 Jun — Age: 1 Saint George, Surry, Jamaica
Stewart George Hanna Baptism 1834 9 Jun Saint George, Surry, Jamaica
Minnie Hanna Birth Jan 1846 in Holborn, London
Did this Frances die after Minnie's birth because Stewart William appears to re-marry in 1851 ...................
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Stewart William Hanna Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Age: 45 Spouse: Frances Elizabeth Blagrave Spouse Age: 31 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 4 Mar 1851 Parish: Christ Church, St Marylebone Borough: Westminster Father Name: William Hanna Spouse Father: Charles George Blagrave Register Type: Parish Register
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13 Dec 2015 00:35 |
Stewart William did bulk baptisms again in 1851 ..........
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Henry Bethina Hanna Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Jun 1851 Father's name: Stewart William Hanna Mother's name: Frances Catherine Hanna Parish or Poor Law Union: St Dunstan in the West Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
from image:- Born April 22 1839
Name: Minna Hanna Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Jun 1851 Father's name: Stewart William Hanna Mother's name: Frances Catherine Hanna Parish or Poor Law Union: St Dunstan in the West Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
Born January 18 1848
Name: Julian Hanna Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Jun 1851 Father's name: Stewart William Hanna Mother's name: Frances Catherine Hanna Parish or Poor Law Union: St Dunstan in the West Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers
from image:- Born July 22 1837 Admitted into the Church having brought in Certificate of private baptism
This is the order in the Baptism register, and I do not know whether the further information on Julian's entry applies only to him or to all 3.
The other information on the image is the same for all of them .................
Address:- 81 Milton Street (i cannot determine the name of the district)
Fahter occupation:- Clergyman of the Church of England
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13 Dec 2015 00:57 |
?????
correct age and birth place for Julian Hanna (b. 22 July 1837, Hampshire)
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: Julian Hanna Estimated Age: 22 Birth Date: 1837 Birth Place: Petersfield, Hants Issue Date: 14 Oct 1859 Issue Port: London Certificate Number: 21132
image is of the actual certificate .............. fully qualified to fulfil the duties of Second Mate in Merchant Service
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: Julian Hanna Estimated Age: 24 Birth Date: 1837 Birth Place: Petersfield, Hants Issue Date: 31 Aug 1861 Issue Port: London Certificate Number: 21.132
Fully qualified to fulfil the duties of First Mate in the Merchant Service
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: Julian Hanna Estimated Age: 27 Birth Date: 1837 Birth Place: Petersfield, Hants Issue Date: 2 Feb 1864 Issue Port: London Certificate Number: 21132
Duly qualified to fulfil the duties of Master in the Merchant Service. Granted the Certificate of Competency 5 November 1863
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: Julian Hanna Estimated Age: 27 Birth Date: 1837 Birth Place: Petersfield, Hants Issue Date: 4 Oct 1864 Issue Port: London Certificate Number: 21132
Duly qualified to fulfil the duties of Master in the Merchant Service. Granted the Certificate of Competency
I'm no sure what the difference is between the last two. I just cannot see any difference in wording between them
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13 Dec 2015 01:10 |
??????????? could this be Julian?????
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Julian Hanna Probate Date: 8 Oct 1915 Registry: London, England Death Date: 13 Mar 1915 Death Place: France
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of 12 Place du Forail Pau (Basses Pyrenees) France died 13 March 1915. Administration (with will) [granted] London 8 October 1915 to Eleonore Henriette Marguerite Louise Augusta Hanna, widow. Effects £317 2s 5d
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13 Dec 2015 01:26 |
all the above records that I have posted are from ancestry.
FindMyPast has some other records, including Merchant Navy Seamen Records, and the first record for Julian as a seaman seems to be 1853
plus the following
GRO Consular Marriages (1849-1965)
First name(s) JULIAN Last name HANNA Year range 1896-1900 Marriage place PAU Country FRANCE Record Source GRO Consular Marriages (1849-1965) Volume 10 Page 546 Record set British nationals married overseas 1818-2005 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from United Kingdom
Spouse:- Eleonore Henriette M L A Demonceaux
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13 Dec 2015 01:31 |
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from ancestry
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Julian Hanna Year: 1895 County or Borough: Camden Ward or Division/Constituency: St Pancras South Street address: 16 Tavistock place
If it is him, he is listed with a Thomas Henry Looker ....... but women would not have been listed in those days
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13 Dec 2015 01:48 |
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from FMP
Hanna Stewart G — — 1885 Queensland directories Queensland, Australia
Hanna Stewart George — — 1903 Queensland electoral rolls Queensland, Australia
Hanna Stewart George — — 1906 Queensland electoral rolls Queensland, Australia
Hanna Stewart George — — — Cyclopedia of New Zealand v2 Auckland New Zealand
Unfortunately, the images for the above don't seem to show Stewart George Hanna ?????
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Hawaii, Honolulu Passenger Lists, 1900-1953 Transcription
First name(s) S G Last name Hanna Sex Male Birthplace/nationality - Arrival year 1915 Arrival city Honolulu Arrival state Hawaii Arrival country United States NARA publication number A3422 NARA roll number 47 Record set Hawaii, Honolulu Passenger Lists, 1900-1953 Category Travel & migration Subcategory Passenger lists Collections from United States & Canada
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13 Dec 2015 02:47 |
Here are Rhoda and Edith in 1891, although Rhoda is now younger than Edith ???
1891 Census
Name: Rhoda Hanne [Rhoda Hanna] Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Petersfield, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Surrey Country: England
Registration district: Guildford ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 560 Folio: 72 Page Number: 7
Eliza Gee 71 Jabel Halsey 17 Sarah Butler 19 Harry Couchman 35 Ethel Couchman 25 Edith Hanne 50 b.ca 1841, Petersfield, Hampshire, Boarder, Living on Her Own Means Rhoda Hanne 48 Living on Her Own Means
Address:- Conway (???) House, Harvey Road
and Rhoda in 1901
1901 Census
Name: Rhoda E G Hanna Age: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Female Birth Place: Petersfield, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Paddington Search Photos: Search for 'Paddington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine Kilburn County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Paddington Sub-registration district: St Mary, Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 25a
Piece: 7 Folio: 64 Page Number: 4 Household schedule number: 255
Evelyn Meyler 28 Florence K Taylor 26 Iris Ofarrell 19 Jessie Millen 26 Caroline Hickinbottom 31 Lucy J Jay 20 Edith Dauckart 21 Mary Greenway 25 Mary I Bruce 60 Rhoda E G Hanna 58 Living on Her Own Means Mary J Paris 44 Mary J Terry 52
Address:- 46 Randolph Gardens, Kilburn Rd
??? Edith
1901 Census
Name: Edith Hanna Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation to Head: Lodger Gender: Female Birth Place: Liss, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: West Tarring Search Photos: Search for 'West Tarring' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Durrington and West Tarring Town: Salvington County/Island: Sussex Country: England
Registration district: East Preston Sub-registration district: Worthing ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 957 Folio: 55 Page Number: 6 Household schedule number: 38
Harriett Newman 65 Edith Hanna 60 Living on her Own Means
Address:- 5 Glebe Road
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Deaths Mar 1909 (>99%) HANNA Rhoda 67 Wandsworth 1d 543
Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%) HANNA Edith Frances M 68 Petersfield 2c 87
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13 Dec 2015 02:57 |
Rhoda in 1861
1861 Census
Name: Rhoda C G Hanna Age: 18 Estimated birth year: 1843 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: N Civil Parish: Newington St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Surrey Country: England
Registration district: Newington Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 47 Piece: 339 Folio: 21 Page Number: 10
Helen H Tate 55 Wilfred Tate 24 Georgiana Tate 19 Scholar Rhoda C G Hanna 18 Scholar Matilda Hulbert 20
Address:- 16 Sutherland Square
tempting to suggest she and Georgiana are friends ??????
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13 Dec 2015 03:18 |
from fmp
England Deaths and Burials 1538-1991
First name(s) Rhoda Last name Hanna Gender Female Marital status - Occupation - Event year 1909 Birth year - Age at death - Burial year 1909 Burial date 25 Jan 1909 Burial place Putney Vale Cemetery, Wandsworth, Surrey, England Place Wandsworth County Surrey Country England Record set England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom
and Edith buried in the same cemetery ........
England Deaths and Burials 1538-1991
First name(s) Edith Frances Margaret Last name Hanna Gender Female Marital status - Occupation - Event year 1909 Birth year - Age at death - Burial year 1909 Burial date 23 Jun 1909 Burial place Putney Vale Cemetery, Wandsworth, Surrey, England Place Wandsworth County Surrey Country England Record set England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom
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