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Was confusing the date of marriage with date of birth ....Thanks for your info.....maybe that betty is a relative antyway....sorry :-(
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James and betty got married in 1849 .....in colne....but lived in little Marsden which was Nelson area . S sorry Catherine. :-(
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..................above Betty in 1861
Name: Betty Speak
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Speak
Mother's name: Jane Speak
Gender: Female
Where born: Colne, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Colne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Colne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 3079
Folio: 73
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
James Speak 33
Jane Speak 31
Betty Speak 11
Ann Speak 7
Daniel Speak 5
Dyson Speak 4
Margaret Speak 6/12
Robert Holbrook 30
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Think she was born 1829....Think I've gotten it wrong....sorry. james was born around 1823 . :-(
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If the above census records are correct, then best buy a copy of one of the children's birth certificate to confirm mothers maiden name.
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Name: Thomas Holgate
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1851
Age: 23
Father's name: John Holgate
Spouse's Name: Betty Speak
Spouse's Age: 24
Spouse's Father's Name: James Speak
Marriage Date: 21 May 1874
Marriage Place: Marsden, Lancashire, England
another version:-
Name: Thomas Holgate
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1851
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 May 1874
Parish: Great Marsden, Lancashire, England
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Spouse: Betty Speak
Spouse Age: 24
Father: John Holgate
Spouse Father: James Speak
Register Type: Parish Register
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Thanks for that Catherine.....can you see her in Nelson in 1861 as a Varley, or 1881 in Nelson as a holgate again. ? :-)
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is this her?
Name: Mrs Betty Holgate
Age in 1911: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Colne, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Colne
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 8 End St Colne
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: Burnley
Registration District Number: 472
Sub-registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 24922
Household Members:
Name Age
Betty Holgate 62
John Holgate 31 - Son
Harold Holgate 25 - Son
Annie Holgate 8 - Grandaughter
Stephen Holgate 4 - Grandson
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1901
Name: Betty Holgate
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Colne, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Colne
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Ecclesiastical parish: Colne St Bartholomew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Coton Weaver
Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3885
Folio: 110
Page Number: 20
Household schedule number: 150
Household Members:
Name Age
Betty Holgate 52
John Holgate 21
Florence A Holgate 17
Harold Holgate 15
Margt A Holgate 25
John Cowling 26
Hilda Cowling 7/12
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1891
Name: Betty Holgate
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Blacks, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Colne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Colne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Weaver Coton Mill
Registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3380
Folio: 29
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Betty Holgate 40
Margaret A Holgate 15
Jane E Holgate 13
John Holgate 11
Florence A Holgate 7
Harold Holgate 5
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Name: Betty Holgate
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Thomas Holgate
Gender: Female
Where born: Barrowford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Colne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 21 Collingwood St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cotton Weaver
Registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4163
Folio: 51
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Holgate 30 born: Trawden, Lancashire, England 1851
Betty Holgate 30
Margaret A. Holgate 5
Jane E. Holgate 3
John Holgate 1
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I have a dilemma with the above lady. I think she married my james Varley in colne in 1849. Then james died in 1865. I later found a betty Varley marrying Alfred Holgate in 1872. I am thinking it's the same betty. Please could someone check the 1871 census and the 1881 for Nelson area for betty. She was born approximately 1848.
Thanks. :-D
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