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Hi all im trying to find any information on the Shaw family as unfortunately all the older generation as since passed on so i would not be able to ask them. im trying to find out about my great grandmother Betsy Shaw (Maiden name) she was born in 1884 in Shafton, South Yorkshire according to the 1901 census when she was a servant to William Midgley in Cold Heindley. Now from her marriage certificate i no her father was named Joseph Shaw but that is all i know, i have been on ancestry to try and find out things but just keep hitting a dead end.

I would be very grateful if anyone could help

Born 1884 her birth should have been registered

Have you looked on FreeBMD :-)

ive had a look but i have been wondering if betsy was a shortened verison of her name so ive tried elizabeth and still nothing.

First name(s) Betsy
Last name Shaw
Name note Miner
Age 24
Marriage year 1908
Marriage date 14 Jul 1908
Marriage place Ryhill (near Wragby)
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Shaw
Spouse's first name(s) Albert
Spouse's last name Marshall
Spouse's father's first name(s) William
Spouse's father's last name Marshall
Residence Ryhill (near Wragby), York, England
County Yorkshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl


Does the cert give her father's occupation

Just because it may help us searchers

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cold Hiendley, Havercroft with Cold Hiendley, Hemsworth, Yorkshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Midgley Head Married Male 60 1841 Farmer Royston, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Ann Midgley Wife Married Female 60 1841 - Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Wilman Midgley Son Single Male 27 1874 Farmers Son Royston, Yorkshire, England Transcription
George Midgley Son Married Male 37 1864 Butcher Royston, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Jane Midgley Son's Wife Married Female 34 1867 - Batley, Yorkshire, England Transcription
George A Midgley Grand Son Single Male 11 1890 - Yorkshire, England Transcription
Jane E Midgley Grand Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Yorkshire, England Transcription
Harold Midgley Grand Son Single Male 8 1893 - Yorkshire, England Transcription
Eva Midgley Grand Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Yorkshire, England Transcription
Hilda Midgley Grand Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Yorkshire, England Transcription
Horace Midgley Grand Son - Male 2 1899 - Yorkshire, England Transcription
Redver W Midgley Grand Son - Male 0 1901 - Yorkshire, England Transcription
Betsy Shaw Servant Single Female 18 1883 General (Domestic) Shafton, Yorkshire, England Transcription
William Jackobs Servant Single Male 16 1885 Working On Farm Yorkshire, England Transcription

This looks like her on the 1891 census

England ,Wales &Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Roystone, Barnsley, Yorkshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Horner Head Widow Female 57 1834 - Agbrigg, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Sydney Senior Nephew Single Male 35 1856 Colliery Bantsman Yorkshire, England

John Shaw Nephew Single Male 30 1861 Coke Burner Swallow Hill, Yorkshire, England
Tom Shaw Nephew Single Male 15 1876 Colliery Deputy Assistant Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Betsy Shaw Niece - Female 7 1884 Scholar Shafton, Yorkshire, England

John W Senior Adopted Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription
Charles Harpham Boarder Single Male 23

I have seen both the marriage record and the census entry for 1901 but im still having difficulty locating a birth record, it seems like it has vanished :) ive tried different variations of her name and searched with her dads name as well and still nothing, it might be one of those that want to stay hidden :-D

Well she hops between 1883 and 1884 as her birth year

Shafton comes under Bradford reg district

1911 census

Scotland Census Transcription
Edith Terrace Station Road Ryhill Wakefield, Ryhill, Yorkshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Albert Marshall Head Married Male Colliery Corporal Below Ground 27 1884 Crigglestone Yorks Transcription
Betsy Marshall Wife Married Female - 27 1884 Shaftone Yorks Transcription
Albert Edward Marshall Son - Male - 2 1909 Ryhill Yorks Transcription
Mary Alice Marshall Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Ryhill Yorks Transcription


I know you have seen the census but we haven't so it helps us as a cross ref when trying to find info on her :-)

thank you very much :-) its so frustrating when i cant find anything lol

Is this her?

BETSY
Last name MARSHALL
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1884
Age 56
Death quarter 4
Death year 1940
District HEMSWORTH
County Yorkshire
Volume 9C
Page 388
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

Maybe

Births Sep 1883
Shaw Betsy Blackburn 8e 456

Ryhill (1908 marriage place), Shafton (birthplace as per 1901 census) are under Hemsworth RD so ???

One of mine was birth registered as Betsy 1868, Betsy 1871 census, death Betsy 1933, but all other census and marriage as Elizabeth)

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name SHAW
Birth year 1884
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District HEMSWORTH
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9C
Page 157

Maybe brother Tom


First name(s) TOM
Last name SHAW
Birth year 1876
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District HUDDERSFIELD
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9A
Page 372
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

It could be Elizabeth but on her marriage and death its always been put down has betsy, and yes marriage 1908 in Ryhill, which is where im from, and shafton as shown as the census that could be here birth record, id love for it to give me a mothers maiden name

Shafton is a civil parish in the Metropolitan Borough of Barnsley in South Yorkshire, England, on the border with West Yorkshire.

However, ukbmd.org.uk lists Hemsworth Rd as Yorkshire West Riding

and yes Shirley i thought that also, i was looking up those name but i think on the record where they have put swallowfield, i think that is incorrect

????

Scotland Census Transcription
Two Gates, Shafton, Hemsworth, Yorkshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Whitaker Head Widower Male 59 1822 Ag La Yorkshire, England Transcription
William Whitaker Son Single Male 25 1856 Ag La Yorkshire, England Transcription
Samuel Whitaker Son Single Male 23 1858 Ag La Yorkshire, England Transcription
George Whitaker Son Single Male 19 1862 Coal Miner Yorkshire, England Transcription
Hanah Shaw Housekeeper Head Widow Female 39 1842 Housekeeper (Dom) Yorkshire, England Transcription
Ada Shaw Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription
Tom Shaw Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Harriet Shaw Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Shafton, Yorkshire, England Transcription


However mum is listed as a widow .

which census is this Shirley

Looks like the 1881 census - by adding year of birth to age.

ive just tried finding it on ancestry and no luck

Ancestry version Shaw has been transcribed as Shafer

Joseph Whitaker
in the 1881 England Census
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Name: Joseph Whitaker
Age: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Roystone, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Shafton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Two Gates
Marital Status: Widower
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Ag La
Registration district: Hemsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
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Piece: 4597
Folio: 34
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Whitaker 59
William Whitaker 25
Samuel Whitaker 23
George Whitaker 19
Hanah Shafer 39
Ada Shafer 8
Tom Shafer 5
Harriet Shafer 2

I think you need to look carefully at Hannah/Harriett. The name look to me to have been written identically so is it Hannah or Harriett?
There is an 1879 Harriet Shaw birth Hemsworth RD but not Hannah (FMP shows born Shafton which is Hemsworth RD)