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CR10 for Benjamin Thompson Brewis

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Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Jan 2016 12:35

Hello Richard, if you click on Claire's name you can send her a message. In the meantime I would advise removing your email address ( click on edit just above your post) , it's not adviseable to post it on this open board as GR suggests in T & Cs and your post might be reported.

Richard

Richard Report 28 Jan 2016 12:07

I was wondering if any of you have any photos of this Brewis generation, ie: Marshall 1882, Lawrence 1897, Bertram Russell 1894, Mary J 1890, Jane 1886, James Brown 1878, Benjamin Thompson, John Brewis 1876 and Margaret 1875.

Although, to the best of my knowledge, I don't have one of Marshall, I do have some photos of his wife and children. HIs daughter, Margaret, was my grandmother.

If any of you wish to send any photos or receive any of Marshall's family, then please contact me on: [email protected]

Richard

Richard Report 28 Jan 2016 11:40

I have been researching the Brewis line for a number of years. I have no idea if any of you are aware of how the name Thompson came to be.

Benjamin's mother was Margaret Russell Brown. Her father was a James Brown, whose wife was Sarah Thompson.

Sarah Thompson was the daughter of Robert Thompson (1797-1860). This Robert Thompson was an important shipbuilder in the Sunderland area, who founded Roberts Thompson & Sons in 1846.

Claire

Claire Report 26 Dec 2015 21:14

Thanks Alviegal.

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Dec 2015 20:33

Not helping in your search, but this involves his name.

Ann Todd

in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966


Name: Ann Todd
Probate Date: 18 May 1931
Registry: Durham
Death Date: 2 Apr 1931
Death Place: Durham, England


Ann of 11 Glebe Crescent Washington Station. Probate to Margery Brewis (wife of Benjamin Thompson Brewis). Effects £259

Claire

Claire Report 25 Dec 2015 00:16

Ooo Kay that interesting. Wonder what all the codes mean. Just googled the ship name and it is a merchant ship. Thanks so much. You have just solved the puzzle! Cx

Kay????

Kay???? Report 24 Dec 2015 17:09

Maybe to be unfound Brewis was lost and then known as,

Benjamin Thompson?

or Brewis transcribed as,Brewin?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Dec 2015 12:47

I wonder if this is another version of that 1931 death at sea? This one appears to have initials:

Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription

First name(s) W M
Last name Brewis
Gender Unknown
Birth year -
Death year 1931
Death date Dec 1931
Reported date 1931
Departure port -
Series BT 334
Box 0088

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 24 Dec 2015 11:59

that's very interesting Kay????

info about the Iossifoglu which was built in Sunderland and torpedoed in 1940

http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?193382

Kay????

Kay???? Report 24 Dec 2015 08:00

Print transcription View image
First name(s) -
Last name Brewis
Gender Unknown
Birth year -
Death year 1931
Death date Dec 1931
Reported date 1931
Vessel name Iossifoglu
Departure port -
Series BT 334
Box 0088
Record set Deaths at sea, 1781-1968
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
copyright brightsolid online publishing

?.

Claire

Claire Report 23 Dec 2015 23:40

Thanks guys re the returned medals. That would all tie in with him vanishing. Family always thought he died as an unknown.

Apologies for delayed replies. Not enough days left until Xmas to fit everything in.
Cx

Kay????

Kay???? Report 23 Dec 2015 11:10

LBelle,

Yes that one died in Scotland as B Brewis 1940.,,,,,,wife Jane Hankin.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Dec 2015 09:16

I think that person Kay was born Benjamin Humble Births Dec 1876 Newcastle T 10b 74. He later seems to acquire the surname Brewis and appears as Benjamin Humble Brewis. It looks like he marrys Jane Hankin in Qtr 3 1905 Newcastle T as Benjamin Brewis.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 23 Dec 2015 09:06


Benjamin Brewis shows on 1939 register in Newcastle on Tyne but the age is out by many yeas,

although there is no registered birth in that year of 1876,,,,,,,.first one shows in 1884.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Dec 2015 08:47

Kings Regulation 1743 [1912] (as on B T Brewis' record) means that the medals were returned unclaimed. That doesn't mean they were returned by the recipient, it means that they had been struck but never claimed by the soldier or his family. The medals would then usually be scrapped.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Dec 2015 07:57

On Benjamin's WW1 Service Medal & Award Roll for the The British War Medal and Victory Medal there is a note written in red alongside his entry. I cannot decipher what it means but it looks like the Medals were returned 4.8.23.

Claire

Claire Report 23 Dec 2015 01:23

Thankyou. I will do some digging over Xmas. If he was a gunner maybe that would explain the gun!

Its a shame we can't see the 1921 census yet :(

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 23 Dec 2015 00:24

I wonder whether he joined the merchant navy after the war then - gunner during the war, merchant navy after ... my grandfather was Dragoon Guards then Worcesters during the war, then paramilitary in Ireland (not sure whether Royal Constabulary or something else) until discharged in 1925

if he was a drinker there is always the possibility that he met with death by misadventure and was not identified ... it sounds unlikely that he would have emigrated, for instance


I would still be curious about the other birth

although the birthdate on the death record is very slightly off ... might depend on who registered the death, or could be the wrong person (a Peggy Horwood married a Brewis and was born in Q1 1920 so it's a toss-up)

Births Mar 1919
Brewis Peggy J Todd Middlesbro' 9d 860

Name: Peg Brewis
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1919
Date of Registration: Feb 1995
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Register Number: A45D
District and Subdistrict: 4791A
Entry Number: 108

two people may have her in their trees

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/tree/results/brewis/peggy

so you could enquire


edit, just saw your next message, yes, I'd been figuring out that James Brown Brewis was a brother, and I don't think the 1919 birth would have been to that couple

mind, it was in the months immediately after the war so it's possible the parents were another, unmarried couple and the father was in the military, for instance ... otherwise it is a unique surname combination until a birth in a later generation


just to note also, Benjamin does not seem to have made it into the 1939 register

if he'd had a notion to change his name, 'Thompson' would have been handy for the purpose, and too common to trace

Claire

Claire Report 22 Dec 2015 23:53

I have some other info on the other Brewis = Todd marriage. .Benjamins brother, James Brown Brewis b.1877 married a widow Margaret Todd nee Horsley b. 1872 on the 27th June 1904.

She had previously been married to Richard Todd who died at a very early age from a perforated appendix.
Not sure if that helps.
C :)

Claire

Claire Report 22 Dec 2015 23:30

Hi Wow cant believe all the responses. Just got home from work. Not sure how to reply to each point but here goes in one go. Thanks all so much.

Andrew yes that him He was married to Margery Todd. and had 4 children, the youngest is Norman my mother in laws Dad who was born in 1917.

Margee - Not sure. Normans mother never mentioned any connection to any respectable job. My instinct is he joined the merchant navy to run away!

Marie Celeste - Yes it is his son. I also thinks its odd about the next of kin. I think it is just made up. He has also lied about the year of his birth as it makes him 5 years younger on the CR10

Malyon - yes this is him

Shirley - As with Margee, Im not sure if right one. this is very confusing. The fact the first and middle name are the same would appear to be a match but how could he be a gunner and in merchant nave at same time? seems odd.

Joonie Cloonie - I have spoken to MIL. The story is Benjamin was a drinker and would disappear for times. Sounds like Margery was a little to loyal. Benjamin held a gun to her while pregnant with Norman so I believe he was on the scene. There were no other children and MIL was close to all her family.