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George Trotter North Shields

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Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2016 14:41

Marriage for Ann B. Trotter:-

Name Luis Yglesias
Event Type Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1934
Registration District Tynemouth
County Northumberland
Event Place Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911) Trotter
Volume 10B
Page 617
Line Number 31

Trotter probably married one of the following people
Name Ann B Trotter

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2016 14:35

Just for info, the family came back to England in 1924

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
PASSENGER LISTSView Image
NAME: Elizabeth Trotter
BIRTH: abt 1891
DEPARTURE: Montréal, Québec, Canada
ARRIVAL: 3 Oct 1924 - Liverpool, England

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
PASSENGER LISTSView Image
NAME: Davinia Trotter
BIRTH: abt 1915
DEPARTURE: Montréal, Québec, Canada
ARRIVAL: 3 Oct 1924 - Liverpool, England

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
PASSENGER LISTSView Image
NAME: Anne Trotter
BIRTH: abt 1916
DEPARTURE: Montréal, Québec, Canada
ARRIVAL: 3 Oct 1924 - Liverpool, England

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
PASSENGER LISTSView Image
NAME: David Trotter
BIRTH: abt 1919
DEPARTURE: Montréal, Québec, Canada
ARRIVAL: 3 Oct 1924 - Liverpool, England

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Feb 2016 11:06

What are details from below, do you have Cert.?...


Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Trotter George A Tynemouth 10b 389
Swinhoe Elizabeth Tynemouth 10b 389

Chris :)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Feb 2016 11:04

Angela........you need to go back to my first post on page 2 and read through all the info posted from then on.

Then all will become clear that it was George Alexander Trotter born 1889 who married Elizabeth Swinhoe.

Posted earlier by MarieCeleste.........

George Trotter in the 1921 Census of Canada

Name: George Trotter
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1888 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Chef (Head)

Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Trotter
Father Birth Place: Scotland<<<<<<<<<<
Mother Birth Place: Scotland<<<<<<<<<
Year of Immigration: 1920
Racial or Tribal Origin: Anglaise (English)

Province or Territory: Quebec
District: Hochelaga
District Number: 167
Sub-District: Delormier Ward, Montreal
Sub-District Number: 30
City, Town or Village: Montreal
Street or Township: 1310 Tullum
Municipality: Montreal

Occupation: Machiniste
Income: 200

Household Members:
Name Age
George Trotter 33
Elizabeth Trotter 30
David Trotter 3
Davinia Trotter 7
Nancy Trotter 6


As you can see from the 1911...1901...1891 and 1881 census records posted earlier, George Alexander Trotter's parents were born in Scotland.

Angela

Angela Report 3 Feb 2016 10:48

George Trotter Snr DOB 1865 married Margaret Adamson and they had 11 children, one of which was George Jnr DOB 1895. George Jnr married Elizabeth Swinhoe and they had 3 children Davinia, Ann and David.
Davinia (Vena) had a daughter Mavis but she died without having any children. David married but had no children either. Ann (Nancy) married Luis Iglesias, who later changed his name to Churchill, and they had 3 children, Louis, Yvonne and David. My Father-in-Law Louis is interested in finding out if he still has family in this area as he had no idea that his Grandfather came from such a big family.
Hope this helps

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Feb 2016 09:39

Hi Angela,

Are you looking for the George from the 1911 census, who was born in 1895 in North Shields
or
the George who married Elizabeth Swinhoe and went on to have the three children.

As you can see from the information found we are looking at two different people here so what is important now is to know which George is yours?

The father of the three children would seem to be George Alexander, as shown on marriage record, so if you are a descendant of one of the children born to this marriage, then the 1911 census with the list of siblings that you have given, is not the correct George and you need to refer to the 1911 census posted by PricklyHolly on previous page.

So, what we need to know is which George is the correct one?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Feb 2016 09:25

Yes Angela, but.........that is not the George who married Elizabeth Swinhoe.

Angela

Angela Report 3 Feb 2016 09:20

Hello

I have a copy of the 1911 census which states that George senior was 46 and George junior as 16, date of birth 1895.

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Feb 2016 21:03

Yes Angela it can be confusing when you don't give correct information. Could you just explain why, in your original post you stated that George had siblings:-

" George was one of 11 children, Mary, Alice, Lillian, Kate, Sarah, Joseph, Edgar, Thomas, Margaret and Selby."

You must have had some reason for thinking this?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Feb 2016 20:52

Hi Angela

Thank you for getting back to us.

If you read through the whole of this thread, you will see that the information you gave in your opening post, regarding the George Trotter born 1895 was incorrect.

Prickles. x

Angela

Angela Report 2 Feb 2016 20:39

Thank you everyone. It is a bit confusing with names being repeated but keep it coming.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Feb 2016 20:38

If you look at my first post on page one Marie.......I edited and advised Angela to check out my first post on page two. Stating that I thought she had made a mistake regarding the George Trotter born 1895.

Prickles.

;-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Feb 2016 20:03

Agreed Prickles! I do think all the posts related to the "wrong" George are going to be confusing for Angela.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Feb 2016 19:57

When I spotted on the marriage record that George had the middle initial "A"......I thought, hmmm, there is something not quite right here.

I think we are now on the right track.

Prickles ;o))

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Feb 2016 19:54

And for further proof:

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924

Name: George Alexander Trotter
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Birth Place: Whitehaven, England
Age: 31
Date of Arrival: Oct 1920
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Ship Name: Minnedosa

Gives his next of kin as his wife Elizabeth at 13 Boundary Street, Willington Quay.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Feb 2016 19:52

This might further clarify the age of the correct George Trotter:

George Trotter in the 1921 Census of Canada

Name: George Trotter
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1888 <<<<<
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Chef (Head)

Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Trotter
Father Birth Place: Scotland
Mother Birth Place: Scotland
Year of Immigration: 1920
Racial or Tribal Origin: Anglaise (English)

Province or Territory: Quebec
District: Hochelaga
District Number: 167
Sub-District: Delormier Ward, Montreal
Sub-District Number: 30
City, Town or Village: Montreal
Street or Township: 1310 Tullum
Municipality: Montreal

Occupation: Machiniste
Income: 200

Household Members:
Name Age
George Trotter 33
Elizabeth Trotter 30
David Trotter 3
Davinia Trotter 7
Nancy Trotter 6

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Feb 2016 19:50

Looking at the Royal Naval Division service records (on FindMyPast) for the George Trotter of Addison Street, North Shields (the one shown in the census previously posted) - he can't be the one who married Elizabeth Swinhoe.

That lad was apparently still single when he enlisted in 1913 - he gives his next of kin as his father George.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Feb 2016 19:46

Elizabeth Trotter in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Elizabeth Trotter
Gender: Female
Age: 29
Birth Date: abt 1891
Departure Date: 20 Oct 1920
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Empress of France
Shipping line:Canadian Pacific Railway
Official Number: 136266
Master: Mr E Cook

Elizabeth Trotter 29 Housewife
Davina Trotter 6 Scholar
Ann Trotter 4 Scholar
David Trotter 2 Scholar



Elizabeth Trotter in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Elizabeth Trotter
Birth Date: abt 1891
Age: 33
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 3 Oct 1924
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Montcalm
Shipping line:Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 120940

Elizabeth Trotter 33 Housewife...27 Station Road, Willington Quay, Northumberland
Davinia Trotter 9 Scholar
Anne Trotter 8 Scholar
David Trotter 5 Child

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Feb 2016 19:31

This also looks to be the Gerge Trotter born 1895 N.Shields:-

Name: George Trotter
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1896
Address:- 52 North King Street, North Shields
Occupation: Marine Engineer
Departure Date: 17 Mar 1922
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Singapore
Ship Name: Dongola
Search Ship Database: Search for the Dongola in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: P & O S N Co
Official Number: 121270
Master: C R A Newby
............................
Name: Mr G Trotter
Birth Date: abt 1895
Age: 33
Address:- same as above
Occupation:- Engineer
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival Date: 26 Nov 1928
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Hakozaki Maru
Search Ship Database: Search for the Hakozaki Maru in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Nippon Yusen Kaisha
Official Number: 28858
....................................

Name: George Trotter
Birth Date: abt 1896
Age: 49
Address:- Lindisfarne Terrace, North Shields
Occupation:- Chief Engineer
Port of Departure: Marseilles, France
Arrival Date: 5 Feb 1945
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Arundel Castle
Search Ship Database: Search for the Arundel Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 145175


..................lots more entries for the same person, so looks like he made a real career out of this.
Should be easy to say if this is not the correct person.

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Feb 2016 19:17

If the George Angela is looking for is George Alexander, then why state that he had the siblings she says he had in her original posting?????